D_Ashido t1_ivyjhgr wrote on November 11, 2022 at 3:52 PM

Reply to comment by breakneckridge in Exclusive: DOT eyes Brooklyn's Grand Army Plaza as NYC's next car-free space by alexd231232

Thanks for the read. I'm gonna have to side with "Ed Crotch" who commented on this article 15 years ago. They said:

>"So here we have a city that is increasing the volume of people yet trying to reduce the volume of vehicles. The amount of subways that can be run on one line is still years off from being able to be increased.

>Still, I have yet to see any data that says that by reducing the number of lanes will actually reduce the number of over all drivers through out the city. It will reduce the volume of vehicles on those streets (less lanes means less vehicles on those streets), but I think people will just drive elsewhere thus causing gridlock and traffic on streets where there is none now."

KingPictoTheThird t1_ivyzuxf wrote on November 11, 2022 at 5:41 PM

The subway is just one way of getting around. The city has added tons of SBS lanes, more buses, bike lanes, and made the city safer for biking and walking in general. As we create safe alternatives people will switch to those

D_Ashido t1_ivz370y wrote on November 11, 2022 at 6:03 PM

SBS and Bus lanes are gonna use the same infrastructure that is being bastardized by this plan so why would I use it more?

Iconospastic t1_iw51xgh wrote on November 13, 2022 at 12:41 AM

Because what he says "will happen" generally does not happen anywhere tried. Congestion on other streets tends to increase in the very short term, but habits change and volume decreases in the medium to long term.

Case in point: Amsterdam's gridlock literally looked like NYC's until it didn't. They made that change. And the traffic did not magically stay the same forever.