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shant_jan t1_ivw5jl4 wrote

if they don't fuck this up, it'll be great on so many layers.

it's just too complex of an interchange for our many, smooth-brained drivers to handle and it makes no sense that the arch is essentially an island detached from the actual plaza.

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xoxofeebzz t1_ivwkpx7 wrote

Very scary as a pedestrian around there, drivers are so reckless and unpredictable

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-wnr- t1_ivxzxij wrote

As someone who has to suffer driving through there occasionally, it sucks for drivers too. The problem is the traffic flow there is way too complex. There's frequent congestion, you're constantly dealing with lane changes, merges, and tight turns. Throw in pedestrians, bike traffic, and the occasional moped. There can be a lot going on at once to divide ones attention.

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ReadItUser42069365 t1_ivyhd0n wrote

Can confirm as biker and car driver. I have driven through there exactly once and thought there was a light in the middle so basically stopped in front of the park entrance and then realized cars were coming so just crept up to the actual red light area. My had just a smooth brain, b12 deficient legume guy

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WaterMySucculents t1_ivzywtt wrote

I did that once and got pulled over for running a red light. There’s crosswalks that are the width of like 6 car lengths and it makes no sense. Especially on the park side of it. On the other sides it’s easy enough to figure out.

But I have no idea where this traffic will be rerouted to, it connects 2 sides of Flatbush Ave, Vanderbilt, Union, Eastern Parkway, and PPW. Where the fuck would all the traffic on all those roads go?

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PKMKII t1_ivyqzwq wrote

It would be so simple and efficient if they had just made it a proper roundabout but, ‘Murica

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ken81987 t1_ivyrmgw wrote

funny cause grand army plaza is literally a big oval too.

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PKMKII t1_ivyyhf3 wrote

It’s the ideal scenario for one but instead they were like “nope, gonna put a stop light every three car lengths.”

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WaterMySucculents t1_ivzz314 wrote

The worst light is one of the multiple lights right at the top of the park by the insanely wide crosswalk. I got a red light ticket here because it’s so easy to not notice multiple different lights every few car lengths

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GrreggWithTwoRs t1_ivzw3vl wrote

I'm curious unless you're a troll, what does Murica have to do with it? Piazza Venezia is considerably worse, taking one top of mind example.

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PKMKII t1_iw0668o wrote

Americans are notorious for their distaste of roundabouts

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GrreggWithTwoRs t1_iw06vt3 wrote

Hmm, I'm from Massachusets which is chock full of roundabouts. Didn't know the rest of the country hated them so.

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