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MillennialNightmare t1_iy8eru1 wrote

Reply to comment by WickhamAkimbo in Weekly Crime Thread - Week of November 29, 2022 by AutoModerator

Probably because that viewpoint is not shared by the vast majority of people who actually live in New York City.

Also wouldn’t have to look too far to find a brigader.

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drpvn t1_iy8ks8n wrote

There are certainly some people who post here who don’t live in the city and who get their kicks shitting on NYC with tales of the urban apocalypse. But at the same time, “the vast majority of people who actually live in NYC” are not on Reddit. And NYC voters elected Eric Adams Mayor on a tough-on-crime message. So I would disagree that most people don’t think crime is a serious problem in NYC. Just because you think they’re stupid doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

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MillennialNightmare t1_iy8m5te wrote

Adams barely won the primary though and the alternative in the general was Curtis Sliwa.

Even if the vast majority of people who live in the city aren’t on Reddit, one would think that the subreddits views would be somewhat representative of that population if it consisted of people who actually live here. And yet here we are.

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drpvn t1_iy8md0e wrote

The point is that “the vast majority” of NYC voters did not think Adams’ message that crime was a serious problem was inaccurate.

If your point is that most young white online male voters in NYC disagreed with Adams’ message, and this sub is mostly populated by young white men, and so the focus on crime here is not what one would expect from a group of young white online men who live in NYC, then you probably have a point.

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MillennialNightmare t1_iy8mmrt wrote

That’s also not true considering, again, he barely won the primary.

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drpvn t1_iy8ms4d wrote

Sigh.

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Remarkable_Salary556 t1_iy8s3mi wrote

>group of young white online men

Only a group of young white online men would think that reddit is only populated by other young white online men – assumptions cut both ways homie

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drpvn t1_iy8zrfc wrote

I don’t say “only.”

Reddit’s biggest group of users are young white men.

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Remarkable_Salary556 t1_iy931es wrote

Lol so what? I read and understood all of your words.

Is this sub's biggest group of user young white men? Are you and I both young white men? Does numerical majority equal distribution of impact?

Neither of us know any of this – Reddit is a dark forest and that is the logical assumption for all interactions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_forest_hypothesis

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drpvn t1_iy95db8 wrote

I don’t think you did understand my words if you think that pointing out that it’s not true that “Reddit is only populated by young white online men” is refuting anything I wrote.

Yes, it’s very likely that this sub’s biggest user group is young white men. That would be consistent with the survey data about Reddit’s overall demographics.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_iy9ufku wrote

Younger male and liberal is the majority on Reddit. That alone would already skew the sub towards a population that feels less vulnerable or do not worry as much about public safety.

The fact that so many lack the empathy to understand the reality of others is probably related to something else, though. Because I know many young liberal men who have a lot of empathy.

>About seven-in-ten (71%) of Reddit news users are men, 59% are between the ages of 18 and 29, and 47% identify as liberal, while only 13% are conservative (39% say they are moderate).
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>In comparison, among all U.S. adults, about half (49%) are men, just 22% are 18- to 29-year-olds and about a quarter (24%) say they are liberal.

https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2016/02/25/reddit-news-users-more-likely-to-be-male-young-and-digital-in-their-news-preferences/

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Grass8989 t1_iyaj7ob wrote

He “Barely won the primary”. Yet low income PoC overwhelmingly voted for him and pushed him over the edge. The same communities that people on here pretend to champion for and claim “aren’t concerned about crime” and vehemently hate the police.

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WickhamAkimbo t1_iy933qe wrote

75%. 75% of city residents were polled and said crime is a major issue. You are so delusional.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-nyc-crime-poll-ny1-siena-college-20220607-7f3g7yxtqnawhflxuuapf5s4ue-story.html

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MillennialNightmare t1_iy96bi3 wrote

75% of city residents were not polled on that, what are you even talking about?

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drpvn t1_iy97j1y wrote

Presumably he’s talking about a poll of a random sample of city residents, 75% of whom said crime was a major issue for them.

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MillennialNightmare t1_iy99ujf wrote

Was that one of the same polls that showed Zeldin winning?

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drpvn t1_iy99z3g wrote

I don’t know. Look it up.

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WickhamAkimbo t1_iy9lixz wrote

Correct: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-nyc-crime-poll-ny1-siena-college-20220607-7f3g7yxtqnawhflxuuapf5s4ue-story.html

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drpvn t1_iy9lm45 wrote

I was able to figure that out with my brilliant deductive powers.

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WickhamAkimbo t1_iy9m7jj wrote

Had to spell it out for our friend.

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drpvn t1_iy9mbrx wrote

His response will be “but Adams barely won the primary.”

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EdgeOrnery6679 t1_iy92ci7 wrote

Weird cause most polls showed crime was the number one concern for new yorkers. If youre judging views on reddit, well youre making a terrible mistake because reddit is mostly a progressive circlejerk. You can probably go to a red city sub and find it infested with barely any republicans.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_iy9qcvo wrote

>Probably because that viewpoint is not shared by the vast majority of people who actually live in New York City.

Most people in NYC do care about public safety, and the redditors in this sub also upvoted many crime submissions to the top.

Many people don't want to believe other new yorkers care about public safety because they want to deny parts of the reality that they feel are inconvenient to their political biases.

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SilenceDooDooGood t1_iydezvl wrote

These people have never once knocked on a door in NYCHA, for example, and have never talked to lifetime residents of low income neighborhoods. Trust that the law abiding folks in those communities want to feel safe.

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