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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivfk3et wrote

Reply to comment by PM_DEM_AREOLAS in Left Unmonitored In His Cell, He Etched His Suicide Note Into a Wall On Rikers Island by hau5keeping

>Wait wait you do this then blame “progressives” the people who have been advocating for mental health services for inmates are the progressive man

I consider advocating for mental health services an actual progressive policy (not "progressive" between quotes). I have no problems with that and support it.

My criticism is aimed at the people who go around proclaiming that street violence is not a problem, as if criminal violence doesn't destabilize families and communities in ways that are not very different from the consequences of police brutality.

And yet these people somehow call themselves "progressive" (I put in quotes because they are anything but progressive).

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PM_DEM_AREOLAS t1_ivggjzh wrote

But the problem is the punitive justice people like you seem to advocate for is one that would actively do harm.

Genuinely asking what tough on crime initiatives would you like to see enacted that you see progressives push back against

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivgm7dg wrote

I'm actually in favor of less punishment, I elaborated more in https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/yong64/comment/ivfq98g/

One specific policy that I see push back is the inclusion of a public safety consideration in the bail laws. I don't believe that's tough-on-crime, because every other state in the nation has it.

Stewart-Cousins is the leader of the NY Senate, and she had famously threatened to hold climate change and gun control legislations hostage just to block such measures.

And I don't believe blocking that is a progressive thing to be honest. That's why I refer to it as "progressive" in between quotes, or just fake-progressive.

Such things perpetuate inequities on POC and disadvantaged people and communities who are disproportionate victims of crimes.

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