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ShinyGodzilla t1_iupk94f wrote

Reply to comment by RetroZelda in NYC to buy 51 electric school buses for $18.5 million by alexd231232

> The city is using an $18.5 million grant from the Environmental Protection Agency with funds from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill to purchase 51 electric school buses.

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false_cat_facts t1_iuqja6h wrote

EPA huh, you know.. batteries don't last forever, they degrade and then need to be replaced. Vehicle batteries are massive and costly$. Seems like a money pit for very little gained in terms of being environmentally conscious.

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shotpun t1_ius5ayi wrote

you uh... you know all vehicles have batteries right. not just electric ones

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false_cat_facts t1_iusaal0 wrote

All vehicles have a 12V battery. Electric vehicles even have a seperate 12V battery. The batteries I was referring to are the battery packs for specific electric vehicles. Do you know how many 12V batts it would take to make 1 Tesla battery pack?

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fadsag t1_iut4t8n wrote

They last significantly longer than a tank of gas, and can recycle pretty effectively (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/recycled-lithium-ion-batteries-can-perform-better-than-new-ones/). Over the lifetime of the battery, it's a net win.

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false_cat_facts t1_iut918s wrote

What's the cost and life span of a Tesla battery pack. Let's say 10 years, cost of replacement is 20k....are you spending 2k a year in gas?? Most 12V batts have a 5 yr life expectancy

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fadsag t1_iutdbww wrote

They've got a 300 to 500k mile life expectancy, which is about the lifetime of the whole car.

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