ketzal7 t1_iu0395d wrote
Reply to comment by co_matic in New York’s Migrant Tent City Is Mostly Empty a Week After Opening by nexert233
As Dems always do. Talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Btw I’m not advocating for Republicans, just saying Dems are not immigrant friendly either.
TarumK t1_iu0rj59 wrote
I don't know what immigrant friendly means. Most of the people coming from Venezuela are clearly economic migrants not political refugees. The liberal position on this is very hypocritical. Is the idea that America should take in unlimited immigrants? If so why are we making them go through all the trouble of an incredibly dangerous route through gangland and the desert? Why not just sell them plane tickets from their home countries? There's no coherent position there at all. No matter how restrictive or open immigration policy is, most people who would like to come to America are never gonna be able to come to America.
djphan2525 t1_iu19psq wrote
so what's DACA then? here let me help
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_Arrivals
ketzal7 t1_iu1whcp wrote
No DACA recipient wants to stay in status limbo forever. They want a path towards citizenship.
princessnegrita t1_iu2hrx8 wrote
It’s a half measure that is still so much better than literally nothing.
We can acknowledge wins and still expect better. This country has had amnesties before, at the very least they could do it again to clear backlogs.
djphan2525 t1_iu1xt9p wrote
oh wait... 800,000 people enrolled in the program is nobody?
>I strongly believe that children who were illegally brought into this country through no fault of their own should not be forced to return to a country they do not know. The 800,000 innocent young people granted deferred action under DACA over the last several years are pursuing degrees, starting careers, and contributing to our communities in important ways. While I disagreed with President Obama's unilateral action on this issue, I believe that rescinding DACA at this time is an unacceptable reversal of the promises and opportunities that have been conferred to these individuals.
-Senator John McCain, Republican
ketzal7 t1_iu1zx7l wrote
I said they don’t want to stay in permanent DACA status. I never said they refuse DACA outright.
djphan2525 t1_iu2ub7c wrote
and what's your point.. these 800,000 people are better off when DACA was in place or else why were they trying to use it...
was that nothing? or it doesn't count for you?
yea i thought so...
Draymond_Purple t1_iu09arb wrote
In what world are Dems not immigrant friendly... It's like one of their pillars.
Everyone can always be better, do better, but that doesn't mean Dems aren't immigrant friendly
movingtobay2019 t1_iu0i0dd wrote
You are conflating rhetoric with action.
It's easy to be "friendly" and say the right things when it doesn't cost anything. When it starts costing votes? Think you get the point.
So I guess if by "immigrant friendly" you mean bunch of feel good statements without substance, you would be on point. Democrats have certainly mastered it (see the free housing lawyers they promised without giving as much a second of thought as to how they are going to retain a supply of highly trained lawyers).
HayPlaceAPlaceforHay t1_iu0rcs0 wrote
DACA was massive action. It’s not the policy of dems to let everyone who wants to be a citizen be a citizen.
kent2441 t1_iu2mx2a wrote
So it costs them votes, they lose power, and they can’t do anything at all. Then what?
Toilethyme t1_iu0k751 wrote
We can be friendly to immigrants and still send them home, humanely. There’s a difference between enforcing the law and abject brutality.
ketzal7 t1_iu0l33v wrote
Policy wise it seems like it but they’ve consistently turned a blind eye to border patrol abuses and have had no problem pushing Republican immigration policies when it suits them.
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