Due_Masterpiece_3601 t1_iua31qw wrote
It's amazing the amount of people that complain about crime and keep voting for the same useless candidates.
Sebastian12th t1_iubqd59 wrote
The states with the most crime in America are all red states. Even rural crime is up 25%.
tuberosum t1_iue3yo6 wrote
Yeah, but NYPOST isn’t leading with that story. Wonder why?
BigBerthasHandle t1_iuk7v1z wrote
All the most dangerous cities are Democrat run.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us
https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us
Sebastian12th t1_iuk8vfe wrote
The Mayor of Stockton is Republican. Go look up Bakersfield CA. One of the most dangerous cities in the state and run by Republicans in Kevin McCarthy’s district. Once again, the most crime ridden states in America are red states. The safest states are almost all blue.
BigBerthasHandle t1_iukaz7d wrote
Please show me a top 10 most dangerous city ranking of your choosing that isn't mostly Democratic run from a reputable source... bet you can't.
Same dumb narrative that is being force fed to us to accept a city completely exploited for a single parties permanent power structure. The only free states and cities are swing cities, this established political machine B.S. is the garbage keeping us down.
P.s. Look into Michael Tubbs and what he did to Stockton
Sebastian12th t1_iukbnbg wrote
Why are you only concerned with cities and not states? Blue states are safer. That’s a fact.
BigBerthasHandle t1_iukbqo5 wrote
Because I live in a city.
The only point I am trying to convey to you is that your regurgitated talking point is useless and fueled by a biased agenda.
Sebastian12th t1_iukc156 wrote
Says the guy who ignores dangerous red cities.
Bootes t1_iub1o7j wrote
Uhh a former cop was elected mayor. Pretty sure his background was a big part of that.
Electing some Trump anti abortion asshole is not going to help, assuming that’s what you want.
NashvilleHot t1_iudobuq wrote
This whole sub is being astroturfed on crime and similar topics to push right wing ideology. It’s documented and organized. Hard to combat when mods let it run rampant.
BigBerthasHandle t1_iuk81fi wrote
This sub is overrun with transplants who don't give a flying fuck about new york and call anyone who has been here the whole time with a different viewpoint a bot.
Apart-Bad-5446 t1_iuc2auk wrote
NYC mayor doesn't control the judicial system which is what he has been lamenting about. Cops can only arrest someone so many times but if they keep getting out due to no bail reform, it's pointless. One guy was arrested over 80 times since the bail reform was passed. Only the governor can pressure the legislators to fix that.
Bootes t1_iueyy2d wrote
But bail reform is irrelevant. If they’re guilty of the crime and the punishment is jail time, then they should be convicted and go to jail.
If they’re eligible for bail, the legal system already allowed them to be free again after being arrested. Maybe you guys should be fighting for increased punishment or less accused crime types being eligible for bail?
Although it’s crazy that the party that is supposedly so concerned with government overstep and strict interpretation of the constitution also wants to make it as easy as possible to lockup people without a trial.
neutron1 t1_iuan2g1 wrote
New York State's crime rate and homicide rate are lower than average, and lower than most red states.
New York City's homicide rate is lower than New York State's homicide rate, and NYC is the safest big city in the country.
We're doing fairly well.
Despite propaganda, facts remain facts. Sorry bout it.
akaneel t1_iuasqik wrote
"Sorry you got pushed on the subway tracks, but at least the homicide rate is low!"
neutron1 t1_iub9uti wrote
Chances of getting killed on the subway at all - homicide, suicide, accident, are FAR lower than chances of death from driving in a car.
And notice how all the people who are talking about crime don't talk about subway track barriers - something that actually would reduce or eliminate these deaths - it's all about more cops and more power for cops, or just nebulous complaining without any actual solutions.
Due_Masterpiece_3601 t1_iuanj0i wrote
I'm a nyer. Crime is up year to year. That is the fact. It doesn't matter if it's lower than somewhere else, the only city I care about is here and it's obviously gotten worse.
Holiday-Intention-52 t1_iubuorr wrote
You have to be blind to not see the increase in crime and mentally distributed people over the last 4 years.
Almost everyone with kids in my neighborhood has moved out due to the crime. You can't scream "propaganda" to stuff we see with our own eyes and videos of innocent people being attacked. I don't care if the Post says that everyone is being assaulted every 5 minutes while the NY Times posts endless statistics about how safe we are.
I can see clear as day how bad things have gotten. I'm not going to disbelieve my own eyes no matter what you or anyone else says. I know how safe the city was from 2008 until 2019ish. This isn't it.
BigBerthasHandle t1_iuk85bt wrote
The only people saying this is some far right propoganda are transplants who don't give a flying fuck about New York. Anyone who actually knows this city knows it's on the decline.
rblbl t1_iueyf7m wrote
It could be much lower without Hochul and Adams.
Darth_JarJar300 t1_iub9f8n wrote
Well different useless candidates who are also worse in other areas seems like a poor alternative so what am I to do?
NashvilleHot t1_iudp6cp wrote
Ok, what are the plans to combat crime from your preferred candidates? Spend more on police? (The NYPD budget is higher than ever, with poor results and zero accountability) Bring back cash bail? (Ok, so more poor people get locked up, even the ones that are innocent, and then their lives are destroyed, which is bad for the economy now and in the future, and the ones that are criminals become more ingrained in crime by being in jail around hardened criminals… that’s great for reducing crime)
What else? Stop and frisk? Cost a lot, didn’t do much if anything back in the 2000s, and caused widespread community distrust, which hurts crime clearance rates if people don’t trust the cops enough to share info.
Any other ideas? Or do we just stay afraid and vote for candidates that want to capitalize on fear for their own power and greed? Granted the current Gov’s boondoggle up in Buffalo sucks, but at least she’s not campaigning on taking away rights.
ripstep1 t1_iudq4ua wrote
How about a new DA that doesn’t allow criminals to walk free?
But you are right, there is absolutely nothing that can be done about crime. We should just vote the status quo and accept whatever happens.
Due_Masterpiece_3601 t1_iudr93m wrote
Put bail back on the table. That way criminals stay in prison, we have too many repeat offenders walking the streets.
More undercover cops and more cops in general. We need to make it more palatable for people to become cops, which means financial incentives among other things. In the 90s, the police force grew by about 35 percent for example.
If you look at the graph of NYC crime over time, it went down at around the same time as stop and frisk. The studies on whether or not it was effective are mixed, but if the combining factors that brought us out of the 90s worked, I don't see why we can't bring stop and frisk back.
New York needs to bring more jobs and prosperity. An exodus of people and companies in the name of work from home, safety and lower cost of living is a recipe for capital flight which will exacerbate our problems.
We need to stop this woke idea that criminals are just poor people or marginalized. Criminals are criminals, period, and need to be arrested and prosecuted as such. None of this slap on the wrist and you can go home nonsense.
kent2441 t1_iuguwyu wrote
What? Bail doesn’t keep you in prison. You just have to pay it, and there are tons of ways to make that happen.
iamiamwhoami t1_iugq0er wrote
I know right. Zeldin would be totally useless in decreasing crime but plenty of people are going to vote for him anyway.
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