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bklyn1977 t1_ispzqc0 wrote

Vancouver is 25 times more boring than NYC

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[deleted] t1_isq1pft wrote

habitual OP jumping on the bike thread bonanza today from their loft in kalamazoo

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Johnnadawearsglasses t1_isq8cth wrote

What about a comparable Canadian city like Toronto? Vancouver is a nice suburb

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app4that t1_isqah3u wrote

Also because way too many people in NYC have no idea how to bike like responsible humans.

I have never been to Vancouver but I surmise that the vast majority of bikers there follow the rules, wear helmets, ride with traffic, keep off the sidewalk, don’t weave in and out of traffic, use signals, wear lights or reflective clothing at night and are generally not entitled jerks.

Unlike a huge percentage of bozos on bikes in NYC, the kind that make all responsible bikers here look really bad.

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huebomont t1_isqewss wrote

Replying to app4that (#127,928)

a “bet” isn’t worth anything. unless you have some data here, the safe assumption is that safer better infrastructure keeps everyone safer, whereas NYC’s janky splatters of paint just make everyone feel like it’s everyone for themselves.

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huebomont t1_isqf2sd wrote

In before “yeah NYC is better because you’re more likely to die here, if you don’t like it move out”

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btkk t1_isqj2aa wrote

Replying to bklyn1977 (#127,326)

I lived in NYC for 5 years and now I'm living in Vancouver, and I gotta tell you something, the only two better things nyc has over Vancouver is night life and overall better restaurants (michellan stars wise), besides of that Vancouver > NYC

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kuedhel t1_isqoujp wrote

Let's look on the positive side: as a biker, I am 25 times more likely to spend "the rest of my life" in NYC then in Vancouver.

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jdlyga t1_isqqhgi wrote

I used to think NYC had terrible bike lanes until I went to Naples and Rome.

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ManchurianPandaDate t1_isqqnps wrote

What about pissing while walking ? How dangerous is that in NY ?

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NeptuNeo t1_isqujso wrote

I remember biking in New York City in the 90's before the bike paths. It was a blast

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openlyEncrypted t1_isquz91 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#128,422)

>Not sure what point you're trying to make here. It's not like this absolves the total lack of respect and infrastructure for cyclists.

Ugh... I've seen some maniacs dressed in full tours de France gears going full speed by Prospect park. I mean yes it's a bike lane but it's a SHARED bike lane with pedestrians

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jeffsnguyen t1_isqx1w3 wrote

Vancouver? Lol. It’s like comparing United Fucking States of America to … Mongolia. Get that shit outa here.

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stevecbelljr t1_isqxlad wrote

We've made tons of progress in the last decade though.

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mountaingrrl_8 t1_isqz8w8 wrote

Replying to bklyn1977 (#128,225)

Some of my favourite years of my life so far have been in Vancouver. Lots of underground music and parties, impromptu beach and park sets with dancing, festivals, and all in the backdrop of mountains and oceans. It was a wild and fabulous few years that I look forward to sharing with my grandchildren one day.

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mirrorless_subject t1_isr0xox wrote

Replying to NeptuNeo (#128,876)

Growing up in the 70s, I was part of this gang with my friends and I remember biking from borough to borough to beat rivals gangs up… it was great but bike lanes would have made our job easier.

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StrngBrew t1_isr20j3 wrote

But you’re 85% more likely to be run over by a Lamborghini in Vancouver

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Use-Quirky t1_isr6hux wrote

Vancouvers population is less than 10% of New York City’s and significantly less dense. NYC in some places has more than 40,000 people per square km, where Vancouver maxes out at 16,700. Terrible comparison.

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flightwaves t1_isra16y wrote

Cool, bikers can move there.

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Chromewave9 t1_isrez2q wrote

Replying to btkk (#128,361)

I have family who live in Vancouver and have been living there for decades. The only reason they are there is for the money - much like everyone else there. There's not much to do in Canada like the States so if you're not in Toronto or Vancouver, there's nothing else to do besides doing something nature-y. Montreal used to be nice but it's pretty ghetto in most areas.

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fasda t1_iss3i4h wrote

Yes we should ban cars.

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Hinohellono t1_issebrb wrote

Because the infrastructure is trash and cops don't enforce any traffic laws anymore. Double parked everywhere, speeding, parking in bike lanes or driving through them.

The safest time was during the pandemic when everyone was home. Now that's people are back out it's deadly out there.

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Swiizy_ t1_isskgag wrote

yea you know why? because these cyclists dont care about red lights or looking around i almost hit 3 in a week

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Farrell-Mars t1_issz81x wrote

Bicycling in NYC seems almost unbelievably dangerous in general.

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OH_NO_MR_BILL t1_issz8io wrote

It’s not even safe to walk on the sidewalk in NYC.

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Civil_Enginerd t1_ist6dm5 wrote

Replying to gensouj (#127,830)

As someone who has been to both, no. NYCs is more authentic. All restaurants in Canada are owned by like 2 companies, so while Asian food MIGHT taste better in Vancouver, it tastes the exact same as every other place.

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Civil_Enginerd t1_ist6l50 wrote

Of course, it’s always fucking raining in Vancouver so no one ever bikes

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arsbar t1_istch8a wrote

Replying to Chromewave9 (#129,815)

I honestly don’t think many people are living in Vancouver for the money. One of its major problems is that the economy and development of the city cannot keep up with its desirability — most workers struggle to afford it.

People earning a premium (over what they’d get in other cities) is rare in Vancouver. And it’s often a major reason when people leave the city (it was a contributing factor for my gf and me).

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CarlCarbonite t1_istnqol wrote

Replying to Hinohellono (#131,302)

I almost ran over a guy that hit a bad hole in the bike lane and fell infront of me on the car lane. I think my heart skipped about 20 beats. Luckily he was okay. Scary for us drivers man, I wouldn’t be able to sleep if I ran someone over.

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Specialist_Divide_43 t1_isue2na wrote

If this bothers you and you want to do something about this, contact your city council person about cosponsoring Intro 501.

This would allow for citizen enforcement of dangerous parking violations (bike lanes, crosswalks, etc.), modeled after the idling program. I am an active participant in the idling program, and have personally seen the impact of complaints I've submitted in my community.

This bill is at a critical point, needing 3 more cosponsors to have a majority of city council members on board (huge step). So again, please email your city council person about getting them to cosponsor if you want this to change!! The email can be short, but the more emails they get, especially from their constituents, the more likely they are to help this move forward.

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NicksOnMars t1_isv58yh wrote

Replying to openlyEncrypted (#128,894)

Its actually not shared. It's separate. A lot of Peds like to walk in bike and car lanes for unknown reasons. That does not absolve cyclists from not yielding at xwalks though. We can all do better

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survive_los_angeles t1_isx9qsg wrote

Replying to app4that (#127,928)

came here to say this, been riding in NYC since a little kid from brooklyn to manhattan and beyond.

I see people who can barely ride a bike try to lets say ride down Atlantic during rush our -- Atlantic ave all these years will still turn you into a white bicycle. I see people who ride like they are in a small cul de sac in their former suburbs assuming a car will stop for you , or can even see you over parked cars. I see people ride right into the tail of a tractor trailer or truck or long bus in thier blind spot as they are turning and they have no idea how trucks turning work - they are like - they should be aware of me and ride right into being crushed.

I see people skip lights (ps i skip lights but i look :) without looking because they think they did it 20 times on that street, the 21st no one will be barreling down to catch the yellow.

I weave in and out of traffic, i used to be a bicycle messenger. Its nothing wrong with it if you know what you are doing. If you came from the suburbs of NJ and just start weaving, yeah you probably gonna get crushed. I think the main thing is really sloppy intersection crossing without being aware, and the dynamics of turning vehicles and their blind spots. I see a vehicle wants to turn and they dont see me? I have no problem stopping and waiting for them to complete the turn -- even if I have the green light and right of way. Try telling the car is wrong when you are under it, when they barely can see , they forgot their glasses and decide to catch a parking spot that just opened in the middle of your right of way. keep your eyes open and watch the patterns!

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Plays_On_TrainTracks t1_isxzyhn wrote

Replying to CarlCarbonite (#134,031)

This actually basically happened to me except i was on the bike. I happen to think our bike lanes are pretty decent in Brooklyn. Except on caton ave near the parade grounds along the park was in need of road repair real bad.

It was a tight street and lots of traffic and i was riding in a lane like a car at that point because it was such a tight street its easier to just control traffic like that but I went into the side where a bike should go and hit the biggest pothole i have ever seen. It was like going off a bmx ramp on a road bike. Chest hit the handle bars and i flew into the side if a guys car just snacking the whole side or it. Driver came out and looked at the car and asked if i was okay and just left. It wasnt the drivers fault and if anything I thought i should have been the one paying for scratching the shit out of his car

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cerealverse t1_isz10eq wrote

Replying to Civil_Enginerd (#144,737)

You go to chain restaurants and complain about how they taste the same everywhere?

Do you think Chinese restaurants in Richmond are owned by either of the two?

I’ve been to Van and NY and Van is without a doubt better in terms of Chinese food

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cousin_red t1_iszxmjy wrote

Replying to NeptuNeo (#128,876)

I concur so much fun. worked as a bike messenger in the early 90s. The only thing that sucked was that the public buses ran on diesel fuel. At the end of the day you'd have a thin layer of soot covering your body.

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Mr1988 t1_it78r7k wrote

Replying to arsbar (#132,758)

I go a few times per year. Love it there, but it is about as dysfunctional as NYC in a lot of ways....doesn’t make me love it any less.

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Civil_Enginerd t1_ita8u82 wrote

Replying to cerealverse (#145,691)

Even decent restaurants are part of chains. If you go to more than one Canadian city, you see the same restaurants in various Canadian cities. They’re all franchises, even if they’re not part of the big 2.

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cerealverse t1_itaefa2 wrote

Replying to Civil_Enginerd (#173,807)

?????

What you said is so open to interpretation and one sided, I don’t even know how to reply to you.

What would be considered as a good/decent restaurant? Where did you go when you were in Vancouver/NYC?

How about this, since we both went to Waterloo / Toronto, why don’t you tell me which Chinese/ Asian restaurants you’ve been to?

It is absolutely not true decent ones are all franchised, btw places like rice noodles or whatever are not considered to be decent. Those are considered to be fast food restaurants.

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