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app4that t1_isqah3u wrote

Also because way too many people in NYC have no idea how to bike like responsible humans.

I have never been to Vancouver but I surmise that the vast majority of bikers there follow the rules, wear helmets, ride with traffic, keep off the sidewalk, don’t weave in and out of traffic, use signals, wear lights or reflective clothing at night and are generally not entitled jerks.

Unlike a huge percentage of bozos on bikes in NYC, the kind that make all responsible bikers here look really bad.

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huebomont t1_isqewss wrote

a “bet” isn’t worth anything. unless you have some data here, the safe assumption is that safer better infrastructure keeps everyone safer, whereas NYC’s janky splatters of paint just make everyone feel like it’s everyone for themselves.

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I__LOVE__LSD t1_isqhuvy wrote

> a “bet” isn’t worth anything

I'm curious why you put this in quotes, as if the above poster made some sort of a bet.

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juicychakras t1_isqkgxl wrote

“Surmise” = bet

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I__LOVE__LSD t1_isqko57 wrote

I understand that they have similar meanings. I still found it strange to put bet in quotes.

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huebomont t1_isrcos9 wrote

because I thought it said “bet” not “surmise” and didn’t look back before posting, nothing more interesting than that

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oftenfrequently t1_isr0ny9 wrote

I was just in Vancouver and the traffic design is also significantly more bike-friendly than in NY. Lots of protected bike lanes with medians.

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openlyEncrypted t1_isquz91 wrote

>Not sure what point you're trying to make here. It's not like this absolves the total lack of respect and infrastructure for cyclists.

Ugh... I've seen some maniacs dressed in full tours de France gears going full speed by Prospect park. I mean yes it's a bike lane but it's a SHARED bike lane with pedestrians

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NicksOnMars t1_isv58yh wrote

Its actually not shared. It's separate. A lot of Peds like to walk in bike and car lanes for unknown reasons. That does not absolve cyclists from not yielding at xwalks though. We can all do better

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pstut t1_isrbdwc wrote

"I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but here are some facts, backed up by nothing."

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Blue_water_dreams t1_isqx44d wrote

Also everything on two wheels rides ikon the bike bath, including super fast e-bikes, moped and motorcycle.

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beer_nyc t1_isvtn7k wrote

> wear helmets

what does this have to do with anything?

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survive_los_angeles t1_isx9qsg wrote

came here to say this, been riding in NYC since a little kid from brooklyn to manhattan and beyond.

I see people who can barely ride a bike try to lets say ride down Atlantic during rush our -- Atlantic ave all these years will still turn you into a white bicycle. I see people who ride like they are in a small cul de sac in their former suburbs assuming a car will stop for you , or can even see you over parked cars. I see people ride right into the tail of a tractor trailer or truck or long bus in thier blind spot as they are turning and they have no idea how trucks turning work - they are like - they should be aware of me and ride right into being crushed.

I see people skip lights (ps i skip lights but i look :) without looking because they think they did it 20 times on that street, the 21st no one will be barreling down to catch the yellow.

I weave in and out of traffic, i used to be a bicycle messenger. Its nothing wrong with it if you know what you are doing. If you came from the suburbs of NJ and just start weaving, yeah you probably gonna get crushed. I think the main thing is really sloppy intersection crossing without being aware, and the dynamics of turning vehicles and their blind spots. I see a vehicle wants to turn and they dont see me? I have no problem stopping and waiting for them to complete the turn -- even if I have the green light and right of way. Try telling the car is wrong when you are under it, when they barely can see , they forgot their glasses and decide to catch a parking spot that just opened in the middle of your right of way. keep your eyes open and watch the patterns!

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