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Imagine357 t1_irwzcag wrote
Math and science class is where jobs are made.
Roflinmywaffle t1_irxraii wrote
Based and STEMpilled
Curiosities t1_is18rt8 wrote
>provide our citizens with a proper education and policies that create a steady stream of good paying jobs?
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How does that address this? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-29/job-applicants-with-black-names-still-less-likely-to-get-the-interview
Other studies show when names on resumes and applications are made to sound 'whiter' by Black and Asian applicants, or vaguer/use initials to not give away that the applicant is a woman, their interview numbers go up.
There are other examples, but "good paying jobs" only work if you're able to get interviewed for and hired for them.
Discrimination is real. Systemic racism is real. Here's an idea: give a good education and good paying jobs AND tackle inherent biases and documented discrimination.
myassholealt t1_is6x4wi wrote
Lol of course your comment is downvoted in this sub. Stay predictable r/nyc.
pluralofjackinthebox t1_iry8l9g wrote
Real estate is a big part of the picture too. NYC’s is the most segregated metro region in the US. If so many Black kids, Asian kids etc. weren’t all districted into the same schools, they wouldn’t be having such disparate experiences.
But to tackle that issue requires solving the housing crisis and NIMBYism, among other stumbling blocks…
WickhamAkimbo t1_iryw2qa wrote
Throwing everyone in a classroom doesn't really help if you have a ton of disruptive students.
Euphoric-Program t1_is08za9 wrote
The public school system in nyc is 70% minority. Even if you do all that, it wouldn’t make a difference. We don’t do zoned schools anymore, it’s open lottery
MartyMohoJr t1_is0vrpl wrote
If its 70% non-white, wouldn't white kids be a minority too?
Euphoric-Program t1_is0wg1m wrote
Whites are the minority in public school. And as we seen with the new lottery if you try to make them commute an hour to a bad school in queens because thats where they were placed randomly, they just enroll them in private school. Many white families with means end up moving to the suburbs. One thing even the most stark progressive won’t compromise on their childrens education if they can afford not to.
NetQuarterLatte t1_irwlbgn wrote
Performative bullshit meets ballot. What do we get? Performative bullshit ballot measures.
It's time we start focusing on the fundamentals.
The color of our firefighters or MTA personnel should not take the front seat over service reliability and trustworthiness.
L0thario t1_irx1yyh wrote
Unfortunately there is enough people in the city who will read “advancing racial equity” and will instantly think vote yes, regardless whether it is a good policy or not.
threelegcatkungfu t1_iryzvda wrote
Voted no for these. As an asian I know what democrats mean when they start talking about racial equity.
BiblioPhil t1_is0r67n wrote
Lol this sub's conservatroll brigade wants us to think Republicans somehow have a less racist platform than Democrats.
threelegcatkungfu t1_is0rv0q wrote
Oh no, the republicans are absolutely running a racist platform. But the difference is they are openly racist and will stab you in the face. The democrats will stab you in the back while whispering sweet words into your ear. Malcolm X was spot on about that.
Happy-Investigator- t1_is65tog wrote
What you need to learn: neither party gives a fuck . Both parties are saturated with identity politics , but does either party care about improving living conditions for the ordinary working class NewYorker ? No . They are two sides of the same coin. The difference is that the Republicans will openly say they don’t give a fuck about you while the Democrats wave a rainbow flag and BLM banners and still not give a fuck about you.
BiblioPhil t1_isa9lzh wrote
2016 called, it wants its shitty political analysis back
Euphoric-Program t1_irwjsq1 wrote
De blasio legacy lol
Just catchy words, studies and new agencies to steal tax payer dollars. Vote no
iv2892 t1_is0uxvk wrote
For the love of God , yes . I’m finally noticing more progressives are seeing the light on this crap while at the same time knowing that republicans are much worse for the most part
Robotemist t1_is3hga0 wrote
How are Republicans much worse?
justtotryit4now t1_irzb0eb wrote
I guess Eastern Europeans aren’t considered minorities?
BiblioPhil t1_is0s342 wrote
I don't know, are white people minorities?
justtotryit4now t1_is1o17t wrote
Since when are Eastern Europeans considered white?
tuberosum t1_is1ze6y wrote
In the US, they definitely are. When's the last time you heard of a Polish person, Ukrainian , Hungarian, Bulgarian, etc. referred to in any terms other than white?
justtotryit4now t1_is89f4f wrote
In Europe they don’t consider themselves white, why is America so backwards when it comes to race.
BiblioPhil t1_is2rtun wrote
Since the turn of the century?
tootsie404 t1_irxt4oj wrote
What are some example of systemic racism in NYC?
WickhamAkimbo t1_iryuoar wrote
There was a pretty steady stream of Asian people being attacked, assaulted, and murdered during the pandemic, but for some reason a large percentage of the sub was uncomfortable talking about that.
BiblioPhil t1_is0see5 wrote
No, this sub was pretty comfortable about it as long as it provided them an opportunity to denigrate all black people. Which is usually what those threads turned into--a bunch of Long Island cops suddenly caring about racial disparities for the first time ever.
NetQuarterLatte t1_iryj8n3 wrote
I pointed out a systematic racist outcome in NYC that has one root cause in the performative bullshit culture.
And my comment got deleted by the mods, because it did not conform to the performative bullshit.
harlemtechie t1_irzpgwy wrote
I can't stand the performances and they pretend that nyc has no racism issues but it reaks of racism.
drpvn OP t1_irxtuah wrote
Many—maybe most progressives these days—say that any statistical disparity in outcomes among groups of people who can be categorized by race is evidence of systemic racism.
fafalone t1_is0jket wrote
Proof*
It is evidence, as in a reason to examine if that's the case. But many progressives think it's absolute proof, end of story, and must immediately be rectified by explicit quotas rather than addressing any underlying issues.
harlemtechie t1_irzpmve wrote
I would say gentrification only bc we had to go through over a decade of landlords refusing to rent out to poc (with income and credit) and this reduced the voting power of poc as well bc the white vote took over some districts, even liberal ones can be harmful if they refuse to see real issues.
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Rottimer t1_irykqg3 wrote
NYC has the most segregated school system in the country.
30roadwarrior t1_irzcyb0 wrote
And Maury said that is a lie.
Rottimer t1_is0hj1p wrote
Well Maury should actually look at the results before opening his mouth.
https://gothamist.com/news/new-yorks-schools-are-still-the-most-segregated-in-the-nation-report
https://www.publicschoolreview.com/amp/blog/new-york-city-schools-most-segregated-in-the-nation
30roadwarrior t1_is619ln wrote
Do you imply that NYC as a matter of policy segregates students? Which again Maury would say is a lie.
Rottimer t1_is6iwm7 wrote
I’m not implying anything. It’s just a fact, even if it makes people uncomfortable, that NYC is the most segregated school district in the country. I think some of that is due to voluntary actions by parents and some of that is due to DoE policies that influence which students can attend which schools. Even if it was 100% due to actions by parents, it indicates a problem.
30roadwarrior t1_is8tud4 wrote
Honestly I don’t believe the accuracy of the sources. I’ve been across this country there are some real regions that are all one type of community or another.
Barbacuda t1_irzeo4h wrote
America is literally built on white supremacy and NYC is a shining beacon of it
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Barbacuda t1_is0aatv wrote
Lol no 400 years of colonialism and white supremacy are what's wrong with it. just because you whites are being called out on all this damage that you cause isn't bad. It's the world you built
fafalone t1_is0m7xj wrote
Keep shooting yourself in the foot.
People like you are doing more to maintain inequity than the klan and similar groups at this point.
I don't know how you think you can embrace the idea of judging and penalizing based only on race and expect the majority to go along with using it to disadvantage themselves as retaliatory justice for something they had no part in.
And yes, it's clearly about revenge instead of equity. If you wanted equity, you could easily get sufficient buy in by race neutral benefits to the disadvantaged; it would disproportionately benefit POC because POC are disproportionately disadvantaged. But because you embrace the same ideas about race, that's not good enough. You can't stand the idea of not having some races get the short end of the stick, so you wind up empowering the political party promising to keep making sure white people don't.
Sometimes I wonder how many understand this and don't care, vs so blinded by self-righteousness they don't even see how they're undermining the very goal they profess.
Barbacuda t1_is0njsc wrote
Lol we're the ones responsible for rampant inequality and wealth hording by the oligarchs? And i don't support the idea of judging/penalizing based on race. But even if I was, are you telling me the Republicans are better in any way? You're just showing your ass and you want the status quo to remain what it is. And you're fear mongered to think these policies will be any worse than the system of oppression that already exists
derekjeter3 t1_is10mai wrote
And white people built a pretty damn good world that we get no credit for.
Barbacuda t1_is1byr0 wrote
Good for who? You literally destroyed entire cultures and continents. You exploited everywhere where now everything is output for capitalism. People can't afford to live or have families. People have no community or connection to nature. People grew up and we're able to live off the land back in my home country. Now that neoliberalism and capitalist exploitation has reached there everything is just a product to be consumed. Can tell you've never left your first world bubble
derekjeter3 t1_is45jv2 wrote
First world bubble that’s why everyone from 3rd world countries will literally break every rule to sneak into the USA or Europe
derekjeter3 t1_is45nie wrote
And how about this go back to the country where you came from and live off the land, leave the USA don’t use internet, don’t use your car don’t use electric/heat
Barbacuda t1_is47gmg wrote
You're ancestors aren't from here either. Their the reason 3rd world countries are stuck in a cycle of exploitation from their former colonizers. Go outside sometime, and not in your nice suburban neighborhood
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nuevalaredo t1_irzki9y wrote
Its refreshing to see city journal posted here sometimes.
drpvn OP t1_is0xuwm wrote
I aim to refresh
ZA44 t1_irwlsdk wrote
> New York City’s Racial Justice Commission, by contrast, promised “to examine the NYC Charter to identify barriers to power, access, and opportunity for Black, Indigenous, Latinx, Asian, Pacific Islander, Middle Eastern and all People of Color (BIPOC) in New York City and put forward ballot proposals aimed at removing those barriers and advancing racial equity.” It would also “focus on identifying and proposing structural changes in the NYC Charter that will advance racial justice and equity and begin to dismantle structural racism for all New Yorkers.”
Can we please just provide our citizens with a proper education and policies that create a steady stream of good paying jobs? That’ll fix most of the inequality issues this city has. Instead we’ll funnel more tax dollars into bureaucratic nonsense.