Submitted by LittleWind_ t3_yibt00 in nyc
stork38 t1_iuhvj1z wrote
Good luck. Electric heat is far more expensive than oil or gas.
ChrisFromLongIsland t1_iui7n29 wrote
You do know all new buildings in NYC have to use electric heat according to a new law
Any_Foundation_9034 t1_iuiqo6o wrote
It is astonishing.
Meanwhile….
Where are they getting the fuel for the electricity ?
Fossil fuels, natural gas, coal.
I can’t with this stupid shell game.
stewartm0205 t1_iuj2d0g wrote
Will be getting it from renewable.
RowingCox t1_iuj9ioz wrote
Renewables have a storage and demand problem that isn’t getting solved anytime soon. That coupled with the fact that New York is a heating dominant climate means that the energy deficit in the winter is hard to make up.
chug84 t1_iuk4n1r wrote
Is there like, a switch near my outlet I can toggle to switch the electricity that comes out of it from fossil fuel to renewable?
BiblioPhil t1_iuiw2uf wrote
I would imagine wind, solar, and hydroelectric would generate a higher proportion of the required energy vs. Heating with oil and gas.
evilgenius12358 t1_iujedpl wrote
This is NOT the case currently or in near term future.
stork38 t1_iuifisn wrote
Yes, I know. Another overreach by the unelected governor. The electric costs need to come down 50% for this to make any sense. This is going to hurt the poor black and brown people she champions so much, they'll be reduced to using very dangerous space heaters to avoid freezing in the winter.
Sea_Sand_3622 t1_iuiumwa wrote
Residents of public housing projects do not have individual electric or gas meters , that cost is included in their rent. Their expensive would be only to buy an electric heater not the cost to run it. There’s no incentive to turn off that heater.
redditticktock t1_iuiwatx wrote
Is this true? They must all be running Bitcoin mining machines then!
stork38 t1_iuj1cs0 wrote
How does section 8 and other low income housing work?
Sea_Sand_3622 t1_iuj2299 wrote
In general, if the house is owned and run by a private company, that landlord will definitely want the apartment to have an individual electric meter , which means the tenant , who could have Section 8/ low income benefits, is responsible for the electric bill, it is not included in the rent. The con Ed bill is in their name, they probably can get help paying that bill from some government program but they’ll get no help from the landlord ;)
I believe all NYHA buildings specifically built for NYHA do not have individual meters . It costs extra to put in the meters.
DoNotWeepAtMyGrave t1_iuie587 wrote
When’s the last time they built a new public school building?
beershoes767 t1_iuii15s wrote
Seriously? New public schools have been going up all over the place in nyc for the last 20 years.
drmctesticles t1_iuioi0h wrote
Lol I've worked on like five just in 2022 and I only work on a fraction of them. The SCA is spending a couple billion dollars building new schools and additions to existing structures.
self-assembled t1_iuipf0v wrote
Not with heatpumps. Plus the additional benefits of not needing gas hookup or running a pipe. Still, makes the most sense for all new construction, which is currently the rule thankfully. I'd rather see that money go straight to solar and EV.
chargeorge t1_iui1m60 wrote
Heat pumps erase that gap.
Past-Passenger9129 t1_iui439y wrote
Heat pumps are much easier to implement in new construction but very difficult to retrofit. Especially in buildings like schools where the layouts were specifically designed to maximize natural light and airflow.
williamwchuang t1_iuiewg0 wrote
Definitely cheaper than natural gas but not oil. Assuming that we're talking about heat pumps and not resistive electric heat.
Edit: I meant the other way. Cheaper than oil but not gas.
evilgenius12358 t1_iujd4wn wrote
Lookong at my last utility bill nat as is definitely cheaper. Supply is an issue when we cannot build new nat gas plants or pipelines.
stewartm0205 t1_iuj28o5 wrote
Not if you use heat pumps.
[deleted] t1_iuk0bba wrote
what does he care, he's not losing any money or paying for this himself lol...
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