prisoner_007 t1_iuihiqn wrote on October 31, 2022 at 4:11 PM

Reply to comment by wahikid in ‘The Only Reason We Got It Was That I Lied’ by King-of-New-York

Tell us you didn’t read the article you posted without saying you didn’t read the article you posted.

From the article you posted:

Across the U.S., rental-application fraud doubled in the last few years, going from around 6 to 12 percent

wahikid t1_iuihv4h wrote on October 31, 2022 at 4:13 PM

You are kinda making my point for me, bud. I complained that lying for personal gain is a shitty crime, and you reinforced that, indeed, more people than ever are shitty liars. Thanks, I guess?

prisoner_007 t1_iuikuf9 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 4:33 PM

No, you said that they’re lying because they want to live in New York, which the article you posted refutes. If it’s a national issue that has doubled specifically in the last few years that suggests that it’s not about “want” or “personal gain” and is symptomatic of larger issues.

wahikid t1_iuila61 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 4:36 PM

With the amount that they claim they make, they could have chosen to move to any number of surrounding areas, and been well within the income requirements without lying. The sole fact that these two decided to lie so that they could specifically live inside New York City is the point of our whole discussion. You’re introducing other factors to try to make your case. We are talking specifically about these two individuals and the article that was written specifically about their case. That’s what I was referring to.

prisoner_007 t1_iuim91a wrote on October 31, 2022 at 4:43 PM

The article wasn’t just about them since I literally quoted from it when it spoke about how this is a national issue. It used the two people in Hells Kitchen you want to talk about as one example but also featured several others. You really didn’t read the article in full.

EDIT: Do I think it’s fraud? Sure. I already said as much. It’s not the same or on the even the same scale as what Trump did so that’s just a stupid nonsense comparison but it is fraud. It doesn’t seem like anyone, even the people interviewed in the article, are denying that.

EDIT: it’s also hilarious to be complaining about this happening in NY because people want to live here when the article literally states that rental fraud in NY is 6%, half the national average of 12%.