Darrackodrama t1_iu9844z wrote
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It has to happen eventually, but cannot happen until we have the underlying structures to prevent mental decay and homelessness.
It’s why Norway can have such light sentences and be safer for it, they have the other aspects of their society covered.
Think of it as a reallocation of resources instead of creating criminals and asking nypd to fix it
Grass8989 t1_iu99ep2 wrote
Norway has a mostly homogeneous population of 5.5 million people total, for the entire country. Not comparable at all.
rainofshambala t1_iu9bktd wrote
I keep seeing these arguments about how it can't be done in the US because the population is different or the population is diverse. Maybe we should consider other things like wealth distribution, basic necessities being met, Quality of education, healthcare etc. I mean if we can have the highest number of millionaires and billionaires we can have what they have too right?.
Grass8989 t1_iu9bpd0 wrote
Does Norway accept and provide medical care for an unlimited amount of migrants?
Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_iuacvru wrote
No, and neither does the US
Grass8989 t1_iub0w1r wrote
The city literally just spent a billion dollars on the migrant crisis, can you show me an example of Norway doing the same for non citizen asylum seekers/migrants?
Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_iub2z4h wrote
That's not "accepting and providing medical care for an unlimited amount of migrants"
Grass8989 t1_iub5vh4 wrote
They get emergency Medicaid, which is essentially free healthcare. They can go to any emergency dept in the city and receive free care. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but I don’t see other country’s stepping up to the plate like we do.
Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_iub9a8o wrote
Emergency life saving care isn't denied to anyone in the emergency room regardless of whether they can afford it, and despite your claims to the contrary you're saying it shouldn't be.
Grass8989 t1_iuba2f5 wrote
Emergency care is not denied, but if you don’t have insurance they WILL send you a bill, and you are responsible for the bill. The city is covering the cost for the migrants. That’s the difference.
Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_iubbam6 wrote
Some qualify for Medicaid and some don't, just like it's always been.
People only care this week because it's election season.
Grass8989 t1_iubifwa wrote
“Permanent Residence Under Color of Law, or PRUCOL, is a public benefit eligibility status, as opposed to an immigration status, that allows certain groups of individuals, including those seeking asylum, to be eligible for full Medicaid coverage. Eligibility for Medicaid depends on a variety of other factors (income, state residence, etc.), which PRUCOL applicants for Medicaid must also meet to be found eligible.”
Guess what, they all have no income and qualify.
https://humanrights.weill.cornell.edu/resources/medicaid-and-legal-resources
Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_iubklmp wrote
Sure, asylees are one group that qualifies. That's not unlimited migrants.
Grass8989 t1_iubln9d wrote
If you have no taxable income, regardless of your immigration status, you qualify for Medicaid.
Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_iubn7h9 wrote
"Certain groups of individuals" is literally in your quote. It's not available to anyone who shows up regardless of immigration status.
Tbh I'm not sure if you're blurring lines out of ignorance or an agenda.
Grass8989 t1_iubnbb4 wrote
Yes, the certain groups are people with no taxable income…
Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_iubo9oa wrote
Hey, how about you read AND understand your own link before commenting again.
Grass8989 t1_iubopca wrote
You clearly don’t know how Medicaid and emergency Medicaid works and how easy it is to get with no taxable income, regardless of immigration status, It’s fine. I shared that link because you stated that asylum seekers weren’t receiving free medical care which was false.
Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_iubp6pc wrote
No, I said people don't get Medicaid without announcing themselves and falling into one of those "under cover of law" categories.
I'm still not sure if it's ignorance or an agenda, so kudos there at least.
___BobaFett___ t1_iublnll wrote
Where do you think they send the bill when the patient doesn’t have a home?
Grass8989 t1_iubmmr3 wrote
It gets written off by the hospital. Do you think it’s fair that someone can exploit our immigration system, get seen in An emergency department and pay nothing, when a tax pay citizen can lose their job, have a medical emergency and be stuck with thousands of dollars in medical bills?
___BobaFett___ t1_iubn20u wrote
Grass my man, life isn’t fair, never was, never will be.
Grass8989 t1_iubnjii wrote
This is true! It’s fucked tho.
AnacharsisIV t1_iub96vr wrote
Many if not all of those issues are nationwide; NYC does not have the ability to address those. Sure, let's say the mayor and council create some bill to allow homeless people to be forcibly institutionalized; that's also unconstitutional and would be stopped by a federal or state judge.
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