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manormortal t1_isued79 wrote

Flatbush, Nostrand & Utica Ave >>>>> 67th Road, 67th Street, 67th Ave, 67th Dr.

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TonyzTone t1_isuphld wrote

This is what I never understand about Brooklyn folks complaining about the 67th Roads-- it actually makes sense.

Like yeah, it's annoying because you think it's only 4 blocks away and turns out it's more. But 67th Road is in between 67th Avenue and 67th Drive. All 3 intersect with either boulevards or streets, not other roads, avenues, or drives.

So, if you ask someone "where is 67th Avenue in comparison to 68th Avenue" you'll get a simple answer: it's north. And how does that compare with 108th Street? They intersect.

Now, where is Utica Avenue in comparison with Snyder Avenue? They intersect. Oh, so avenue's and avenue's intersect? What about "Streets?" They also intersect... except when they don't.

To summarize: in Queens, numbers increase from north to south, east to west. So, 1st Street and 1st Avenue would exist in the NW (technically on Randall's Island) and 250th Street and 250th Avenue would exist in the SE (technically there are only 150 or so avenues but 230+ streets).

Queens can get confusing because you have like 5 competing grids and sometimes an avenue will end/begin where another much higher avenue exists. But using that as a comparison against Brooklyn is laughable. In BK, there's a grid in Greenpoint, another in Williamsburg, another south of Flushing Ave. but it's different than the one in Bushwick. Both of those are different than the Canarsie/East New York grid, while Ocean Avenue establishes another grid but somehow Marine Park gets a grid like Canarsie even though the Flatbush grid bisects them. That Ocean Ave grid only extends until MacDonald at which point the South Brooklyn grid begins but for some reason Fort Hamilton is it's own thing.

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