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sysyphusishappy t1_itwx2ch wrote

Reply to comment by iamiamwhoami in New York City appeals judge's ruling that could reinstate fired unvaccinated employees by ILikeTalkn2Myself

> But that's not true. Vaccines do prevent both contracting and transmitting Covid.

Not for omicron they don't. They can reduce symptoms, for a few months after you take them. That's it.

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iamiamwhoami t1_itwxzjw wrote

That's really not true. The original MRNA vaccines have been shown to prevent infection with Omicron

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00200-9

We also don't have human efficacy trials yet with the bivalent booster, but that's expected to be much more effective based on animal trials.

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sysyphusishappy t1_itx1ocq wrote

Did you even read that article?

> Omicron changed the thinking around boosters, says Alejandro Balazs, an immunologist at the Ragon Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts. That’s because, faced with the variant, people previously regarded as fully vaccinated now have “an antibody response that is insufficient to prevent infections”, he says.

> As Omicron outbreaks have spread, boosters have been used to ramp up levels of neutralizing antibodies, curbing cases and easing strain on hospitals1,2. But the concern is that boosters don’t block infections for long.

> Data from Israel — collected between June and November last year when Delta was dominant — and detailed online ahead of peer review, indicate that the immunity from a third (mRNA booster) shot wanes within months, mirroring the decline after two doses3.

The director of the CDC just got covid a month after her FOURTH booster. So did Anthony Fauci. Pretty much everyone I know got omicron last winter, vaxxed or unvaxxed.

You can argue that the shots reduce symptoms, but as far as stopping the spread, that ship has sailed with omicron. Unless maybe you think the government should force people to get shots every three months for a variant that is about as severe as the flu for almost everyone but the very sick and very old?

You need to update your government talking points. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-17/israel-trial-suggests-4th-dose-not-warding-off-omicron-infection#xj4y7vzkg

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