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sysyphusishappy t1_itt2eqt wrote

Reply to comment by beepoppab in New York City appeals judge's ruling that could reinstate fired unvaccinated employees by ILikeTalkn2Myself

So to be clear, you're telling me the vaccine stops the spread of omicron? You need to update your talking points, because even the CDC has said this isn't true.

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radek4pl t1_itvfwp5 wrote

Are you trying to say then that vaccine mandates no longer make sense since "breakthrough" infections are extremely common and the main goal of vaccination is personal protection against severe illness and death?

I'm no longer protecting you and you are no longer protecting me. I take the vaccine and I protect myself. You take the vaccine and you protect yourself. Everybody can make their own medical decisions based on their current situation.

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sysyphusishappy t1_itvl62d wrote

Omicron goes right through the vaccines. The director of the CDC got covid a month after her 4th "booster".

The entire rationale for vaccine mandates of any kind is to protect others. The government does not have the authority to force people to make the right healthcare choices for themselves.

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beepoppab t1_itt4wnw wrote

A lot of words you inferred there..

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sysyphusishappy t1_itt6u3y wrote

Pretty simple question. Do the vaccines stop the spread of omicron or not? Nothing at all to do with "inferring words", whatever that is supposed to mean.

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oceanblue966 t1_ituoobr wrote

You get less sick, show less symptoms, sneeze and cough less, and generally get over the illness faster. All of the above symptoms that are lessened, certainly contribute to the spread of covid. So in short - it does reduce transmission, and the vaccine is highly safe & effective considering the circumstances surrounding its development.

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sysyphusishappy t1_itvm8wz wrote

> You get less sick, show less symptoms, sneeze and cough less, and generally get over the illness faster. All of the above symptoms that are lessened, certainly contribute to the spread of covid.

By how much do they "contribute" to slowing the spread and for how long? BTW the director of the CDC got covid a month after her FOURTH dose of the vaccine. I guess that was a "breakthrough case".

> So in short - it does reduce transmission, and the vaccine is highly safe & effective considering the circumstances surrounding its development.

LOL at "considering the circumstances". That is not how we judge the safety or efficacy of pharmaceutical products. The "emergency" excuse has long since become a moot point. There is no more "emergency".

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beepoppab t1_itt7eoi wrote

Listen mate, all I'm saying is seatbelts don't prevent car crashes, umbrella's don't prevent rain, and kevlar doesn't prevent gunshots.

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