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FentCheck OP t1_jcmyfdi wrote

Reply to comment by RW3Bro in A reminder about harm reduction! by FentCheck

Hi! Appreciate you weighing in here, this is an important reminder of some very common misconceptions. Fentanyl test strips actually do work for non pressed substances and non opiates. Happy to cite some literature if that would be helpful, but some basic googling will confirm this for you.

It’s also important to remember that FentCheck and drug testing in general is a harm reduction practice. Just “not using” is not harm reduction, it’s abstinence and it doesn’t work for everyone. It’s important to make lots of different resources available since there isn’t one universal solution, the same as their isn’t one universal experience of drug use. We shouldn’t limit what others can access based on what works for us personally.

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RW3Bro t1_jcn3tj6 wrote

You don't have to cite literature, I've done more than my fair share of reagent tests during my partying days.

You're misunderstanding me though. I agree with you that the tests will tell you whether there's fent in whatever you use them on. My point is that's only useful for a press which (usually) has (some) consistency in how the active ingredient is distributed, but not for a powder where there's zero way of telling whether the rest of the bag is cross-contaminated.

That said, I also don't think they're particularly useful for pills. They won't tell you whether there's a hotspot in what you're about to consume; only whether there's fent. And anyone buying pills off the street these days already knows they're cartel presses which contain fentanyl. Putting your life in the hands of the Sinaloan hillbillies that make these pills is foolish and inexcusable unless you're already deep in the throes of addiction.

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FentCheck OP t1_jcnbtx6 wrote

Here’s a link to how you can accurately test your drugs for fentanyl including pressed pills because that’s also a misconception! Happy to help keep folks up to date and informed about the crisis.

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RW3Bro t1_jcniqdl wrote

Again, you are offering a binary test. That doesn’t detect the strength of fentanyl in a substance, only the presence. That’s not useful for powder drugs because there are 950mg of untested substances and it’s not helpful for pills because it doesn’t detect hotspots. It’s irresponsible to say that this will reduce harm for the average weekend cocaine/ketamine user.

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FentCheck OP t1_jcnje8w wrote

Again, I will refer you to our website, where we explain that we are giving access to recreational drug users the informed consent on if what they’re about to consume has fentanyl or not. For which, these test strips are forensically your best tool. It’s irresponsible to think that fentanyl isn’t so severely devastating to someone who doesn’t mean to ingest it, like all of the underage users and everyone making this the number one cause of death for Americans ages 18-45

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RW3Bro t1_jcnogmv wrote

Your website recommends testing 50mg. Fentanyl’s LD50 is a little less than 10mg. Are you really saying that testing 5% of a gram is enough to make an informed decision when 1% is enough to kill? What about the other 95%?

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FentCheck OP t1_jcnpjo8 wrote

The test strips detect 10 nano grams per milliliter. A gram is 1000 milligrams. There are 1000 nano grams in a milligram. Yes.

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RW3Bro t1_jcns7hi wrote

I don’t doubt that your test detects fentanyl extremely accurately in whatever it samples. But that’s only enough to make a determination about the 50mg which is consumed by the reagent test. There are 950 untested milligrams remaining, of which 10mg is enough to kill.

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FentCheck OP t1_jcnsy0o wrote

First, 2 mg can kill. Not 10. That’s why a test strip that is SO sensitive that can detect 10 nano grams is so important Test all of your drug. It’s about what you are about to ingest. Be safe

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RW3Bro t1_jcnubi4 wrote

And how can you test all of it unless you dissolve it all in water?

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FentCheck OP t1_jcnylsc wrote

FTS can detect 10 nano grams of fentanyl per ml. Fact. So 2 mg - 2000 micrograms or 200000 nanogqms. The test can detect 10 nano grams per ml.

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FentCheck OP t1_jcnyvlt wrote

They’re so sensitive, you can dump your coke out of the baggie and test the bag itself. I don’t want to keep engaging with misinformation, fentanyl test strips aren’t new and the science supports us helping folks survive nightlife.

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RW3Bro t1_jcr2ba9 wrote

You keep calling me misinformed and regurgitating product facts (that I never disagreed with) instead of engaging with my point, which is that your tests are not a useful safety tool unless the tested mixture is homogenous - which cross-contaminated powders would not be.

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