gregbeans t1_jchia7e wrote on March 16, 2023 at 9:32 PM

Reply to comment by casanovaelrey in NY lawmakers say they won't support MTA's planned fare hike for commuters by King-of-New-York

A lot of that is because of the differences in the cultures.

Most Asian cultures are much cleaner and respectful of public places than Americans are, especially NYC Americans

casanovaelrey t1_jchj9xi wrote on March 16, 2023 at 9:39 PM

My brother. You have NOT lived in China is you think that's the case. I'm convinced that in certain areas, they've perfected the art of littering. Still a great country though. Mention Japan and Taiwan, you might have an argument though. But it's not just culture, in terms of cleanliness. And that's still a weak excuse, on the part of our government, to not handle business. We lie about how we're the "greatest city in the world" and I was embarrassed to live abroad and see that we aren't even the greatest city amongst the top economic powers. NYC is looked at as TImes Square, Billionaire's Row, and Wall Street and we're supposed to pretend like that success and glamor is everyone's. It's NOT. We can do so much better.

gregbeans t1_jchk08p wrote on March 16, 2023 at 9:43 PM

I was referring to Tokyo and Seoul, can’t speak for china so I believe you. But I stand by NYC people treating public places like shit, sounds like a lot of Chinese do too.

I also agree that the government is corrupt and incompetent, but what can we do about that?

casanovaelrey t1_jchkyb2 wrote on March 16, 2023 at 9:50 PM

Yeah Tokyo is a different level of meticulous lol. Seoul is great too. Other places outside of Seoul though can be a little different.

Naw you're not wrong though. We treat the city like shit but it's like the chicken and the egg. Do we treat it like shit because of the government or is the government ineffective because we treat it like shit?

Firstly start demanding accountability. I don't mean a couple of policy wonks on Reddit or the couple of tech millennials who go to the meetings. I mean as a city vote these clowns out then go after the governorship. The amount of naked corruption is staggering.

jonnycash11 t1_jchmrmn wrote on March 16, 2023 at 10:01 PM

Depends on the neighborhood. It’s clean where I live.

iv2892 t1_jci0tug wrote on March 16, 2023 at 11:38 PM

That’s what I say , nyc gets a bad rep as a dirty city . But there are many neighborhoods where people would get surprised at how clean it is

myassholealt t1_jci0ju0 wrote on March 16, 2023 at 11:36 PM

In a city full of transplants, calling out 'NYC Americans' is like saying American Americans. Look at the state "Americans" leave camping grounds and national parks. It's an American culture thing. We don't respect anyone but ourselves. And cleaning up is inconvenient so we don't.