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[deleted] t1_jdhzfax wrote

Reply to comment by Zohin in Cops seek crook behind string of antisemitic vandalism in Forest Hills and Rego Park by Jigamanpimpc

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Jonny_Blaze_ t1_jdjax3u wrote

Can you cite your source for the fact that antisemitic black dudes don’t support trump?

Edit: lol at the downvotes. Source is trust me bro.

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atticusmars_ t1_jdjbnh0 wrote

Yeah I’m of the mind that the antisemitic black guys who likely feed into the antisemitic rhetoric that includes the attacking left,globalism, and Whatever other boogeyman are are infact, voting for trump.

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Jonny_Blaze_ t1_jdjfkrx wrote

Yeah this thread is off the rails right now. Never seen so much right wing bullshit in this sub.

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bherm100 t1_jdjhz30 wrote

I'm not right wing. I fucking hate Donald Trump. I'm quite far left and extremely anti racist. That kind of comes with being in an interracial marriage and having black kids.

But no. This was not done by a trump supporter. I wish it were. It would make it easier to not have to confront a serious fucking issue. But ignoring shit like this is not a good idea.

Edit. Someone above asked for a source for what I'm. Talking about in regards to the race aspect. https://www.jns.org/other-minorities-committing-vast-majority-of-antisemitic-assaults-in-nyc/

Again: I fucking hate this shit. But it's an actual problem.

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StrawberryMilkshaek t1_jdm1p1i wrote

…Your source is saying that minorities can in fact be racist. This isn’t a new conversation or shocking, nor does it dispute what anyone was discussing. Him being black doesn’t remove the fact that most overt racists tend to gravitate towards a certain worldview that reflects in their politics.

Also, I’m gonna say this with the best of intentions, dont bring your kids into a conversation about race. As a biracial person, I’m telling you that if I found out my white parent was using me and my other parent to act as an authority on discussions of race it would make me uncomfortable. It’s weird and almost as bad as “I have a black friend.” I promise you. You can join into these conversations if you’re sensitive, capable of introspection, and willing to listen/learn, you don’t need to add the qualifier of your children.

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bherm100 t1_jdm3u52 wrote

That's not what it says. That's not even close to what it says. It says that 3 percent of hate crimes against jews are committed by white people in NYC. So when this sort of thing happens, trying to paint it as white trump supporters is statistically unlikely.

Almost 70 percent are initiated by black people. That's a real actual problem. Hence why everyone knew how this case would go. It was the statistically likely option.

No one is using anyone. But let's not claim someone is a right wing racist for pointing out the obvious facts here. For complaining about racism. (My wife and kids enjoy talking about race, actually. Especially this sort of thing, as they've been victimized by black racism. But thanks for the advice without knowing anything)

But yeah, unfortunately qualifications are needed when someone tries to paint you as a right wing racist, who doesn't like black people, LOL. Come with that silly shit and I'll point out the obvious. Perhaps you misunderstood me? I was pointing out that the reason I'm so anti racist....is because I have to be for my family's sake . I didn't think it would be difficult, especially for someone like you, to understand.

Youre personal experience is your experience. No one else's. And your promises dont mean much, especially in light of the accusations presented.

I'm standing against racism by calling it out. Not sure what y'all are doing.

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StrawberryMilkshaek t1_jdmh6tk wrote

Who here painted you as a racist, bud? Are they in the room with us? Seems like a victim complex to me.

Trump supporters… can be black. The whole OP is about a black man committing a hate crime and vandalizing shit. This seems to be coming from your own feelings towards whiteness and the assumptions that follow.

I’m glad your wife and kids enjoy talking about race, me too. I’m not sure any black or biracial person enjoys being used by a white partner or family member as a way to bolster their own opinion with strangers on the internet. Genuinely, ask your wife if she wants to be used for karma on reddit.

You’re popping into a thread and getting mad at the people pointing out that there are black Trump supporters and that there’s no purpose in bringing up Trump unless one is purposefully being inflammatory. I don’t see you speaking out against any of the other genuine racists that have popped into this thread. That’s so wild to me, saying you’re anti-racist, propping your family up as proof you care (which lmao I’m biracial ‘mY fAmIlY iS bLaCk’ literally means nothing to me and ignoring the fact that caring doesn’t stop the potential for racism, but that would mean being capable of any introspection which you seem to lack), and then doing nothing in a sea of racists except getting mad that people point out black Trump supporters exist. Lmao you’re a joke.

But damn, white saviour to the rescue!!! What will us poor poc do without you, Mr. Black Family Man?

Edit: You bring up your family on a regular basis for reddit arguments based off your comment history. Oof, bud. They’re more than props, and it takes more than having a couple of children to be anti-racist. No one in the thread you originally replied to was denying black people commit hate crimes. They were criticizing the original comment that brought up Trump and rightfully brought up there are still black Trump supporters. No one brought up white Trump supporters or denied the fact that a black man committed a crime. That all came from you, and you using your family to justify the tirade is weird as hell. I’d say it’s racist but you definitely seem like the type to immediately claim I’m calling you a racist. Psych “especially in light of the accusations presented” lmaoooo Anti-racist can’t handle being told that their actions can be interpreted as racist. Sounds about right.

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bherm100 t1_jdi3wcu wrote

Just about every documented incident has been. There is a tremendous amount of antisemitism in the community.

I mean damn. Best of luck finding a single antisemitic attack in NYC from a trump supporter. I'm unaware of a single one.

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bherm100 t1_jdi5k3x wrote

It is absolutely based on reality. And everyone, including yourself, knows it.

There is a tremendous amount of antisemitism in the black community. I'm not sure where you've been these last two years, but yeah. It's a thing. So much so they guys like kyrie and Kanye (as well as many other black celebrities) openly brag about it.

This story? There were multiple threads on it. Everyone knew the deal before the dude was caught (except for like two people who thought it might be cops)

We need to fight bigotry. Even if the bigots are not who we generally expect.

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bherm100 t1_jdi61vx wrote

There's nothing to argue about. It's a fact. Find me a single incident in NYC fromThe last two years that is from a trump supporter. Find me two from white people.

You can't. That should tell you something.

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bherm100 t1_jdi77jv wrote

"I won't do that"

Because you know how foolish you'll look. I'll save you the time and humiliation. You won't find any.

I'm Jewish. My wife is black. What thay has to do with anything I have literally no idea.

Are you trying to claim I'm racist for knowing NYC crime stats, For reading newspaper articles? Oh piss off.

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TheBravadoBoy t1_jdi5op5 wrote

You’ve been tending over just about every documented antisemitic attack in nyc?

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bherm100 t1_jdi5tbw wrote

Huh? No. I don't know every single incident. Just the ones reported on. I believe every single one in recent memory had this in common.

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TheBravadoBoy t1_jdi7dof wrote

I repeated your exact words back to you and you’re acting like I said something different.

So by “reports” you mean the two or three other articles than have been posted to this subreddit this year? That’s what you mean by “every documented incident?”

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bherm100 t1_jdi7mfk wrote

I have zero idea what you are talking about. "Reports" as in documented incidents. Either via. Court case convictions, or articles about them.

You might get your info from Reddit. I don't.

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TheBravadoBoy t1_jdid0d9 wrote

Let me ignore for a moment that you’re pretending that you aren’t a more chronic reddit user than myself…

Not even the report by Dov Hikind’s org (who has had a demonstrated agenda pushing for racial profiling measures) dares to claim that almost all antisemitic attacks are by black people.

So where are reading all of these convictions where every single one is a black person?

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Louis_Farizee t1_jdirc5z wrote

>According to the report’s data, 64% of those assaults were committed by black persons, 17% by Muslims or Arabs, 11% by Hispanics and 3% by white persons.

There, I saved everybody a click.

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bherm100 t1_jdidili wrote

Oh I'm not pretending. I'm answering your claim. I dont get my news from Reddit. Perhaps you do. As that accusation was yours.

Most hate crimes do not result in convictions. Hope this answers your disingenuous question.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecity.nyc/2022/3/6/22964719/hate-crime-nyc-dropped-before-conviction%3f_amp=true

Nyc also does not really track convictions by race. So you have to actually look the cases up. If you do, you'll find that it's mostly black men. Almost every one I've come across these last two years. There's been a big increase lately.

As a matter of fact I dare you to find single NYC hate crime on jews perpetuated by a white trump supporter. Best of luck.

Edit: can't find a single case? Gee. Totally unexpected. Apology accepted.

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TheBravadoBoy t1_jdifio7 wrote

You are the one being disingenuous. In the comment I initially replied to, you said every documented incident, not every conviction.

I have provided a report by an org that shares your point of view that still demonstrates your comment is full of shit.

The point you’re now harping on, so that you can back track, that the rare cases where they actually get convicted they are usually black, doesn’t really mean anything.

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bherm100 t1_jdiftxo wrote

Still waiting for ONE case. Please present this information. That org does not share my point of view. No idea why you think it does. Nor does it claim my stance is "full of shit". It claims the vast majority of hate crimes are committed by black men. Barely any (3 percent) by white people. And my claim was never "every single one". It was " those reported on in the last two years"

This is called "muddying the waters". No one thinks EVERY hate crimes is from black men.

I'm asking you for something reallllllly simple to present. Please dont respond with any more nonsense untill you present a single case.

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TheBravadoBoy t1_jdigdak wrote

I never said I would do that. What you’re doing is sad.

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bherm100 t1_jdigusa wrote

Ok. So you cannot find a single case of a hate crime in NYC being perpetuated by a white trump supporter. Thank you.

Buh bye.

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TheBravadoBoy t1_jdihh8z wrote

Yep, nice. Good on you for taking off the mask.

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bherm100 t1_jdihn1n wrote

Er...what mask. I'm Jewish. My wife is black. My kids are (obviously) mixed.

Are you trying to pretend I'm a racist? LOL.

Amazing. You don't like being proven wrong. I get it. Let's not start with this bullshit, ok?

I'm the one fighting racism. You're the one sticking up for it.

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