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tripsafe t1_jdzpasv wrote

Reply to comment by Tememachine in New York City is absolutely gorgeous by ProGamerMatt

What do you mean by cosmopolitan? The literal definition is about how diverse and what proportion of immigrants make up a city's population. Cities like London, Toronto, and Sydney have New York beat in that respect.

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RainbowCrown71 t1_jdzsddu wrote

Sydney and Toronto are not more diverse than New York. They’re largely Asian and White. New York has everything.

London is a worthy competitor though.

And diversity =/ immigrants. There’s racial, religious, socioeconomic, ethnic, age, political diversity. All are just as valid as “% who are immigrants”

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oldtrenzalore t1_je01ez1 wrote

> They’re largely Asian and White.

I’m not going to argue that Toronto is more diverse. I think the UN seals the deal for NYC. But this is a weird statement to make. Toronto is less white than NYC, and “Asian” over simplifies a diverse group, which includes 14% South Asian (Indian, Pakistan, etc), 10% Chinese, 6% Filipino, 2.5% West Asian (ie middle eastern), 2% Southeast Asian, 1.5% Japanese, and 1.5% Arab.

My go-to metric is language. There are 700 spoken in NYC. Toronto is 200, and London is 250. (All approximate)

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RainbowCrown71 t1_je01x75 wrote

No, New York is 31% European White, 29% Hispanic, 20% Black, 14% Asian. Toronto is 44% European White, 37% Asian, 10% Black, 3% Hispanic.

81% of Toronto is White or Asian. That doesn’t scream super diverse to me.

Diverse would be Queens: 28% Hispanic, 26% Asian, 24% European White, 16% Black.

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oldtrenzalore t1_je03299 wrote

> New York is 31%

Yes, if you choose to subdivide white people in this manner. If that’s the case, why lump all Torontonian Asians together?

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RainbowCrown71 t1_je03cjh wrote

I’m following the Census Bureau categorization. Those are the official splits in the US: White, Asian, Black, Hispanics (of any race).

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oldtrenzalore t1_je03u29 wrote

US Census asks about race and ethnicity—that’s why we have two different numbers that are both correct. A great deal of Hispanic New Yorkers identify as white.

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RainbowCrown71 t1_je044nu wrote

I’m aware. I even mentioned that above: Hispanics (of any race). Census usually shows “non-Hispanic” for the Asian, Black, White groups.

It’s why Census data is usually presented as four groups: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/16000US3651000-new-york-ny/

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oldtrenzalore t1_je04fx7 wrote

The point was was originally making was that this is a weird way of talking about diversity, since there are so many disparate groups in these groupings.

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