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mowotlarx t1_jbbcj5k wrote

That's very scary. I hope the owners and builders have the hammer come down on them.

And I hope the city realizes that "cutting through red tape" and refusing to staff oversight agencies very quickly leads to shit like this falling through the cracks. We need enforcement of building and safety rules. People's lives depend on it.

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kokchain t1_jbbocln wrote

There was another building where the front wall was peeling off the building on Mott street. Wtf is going on?

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cla1r1t1n OP t1_jbc6jb2 wrote

Yes, that one was less than a week ago. I was exiting the Q at Canal right after today’s incident happened. There was a massive police and FDNY presence and according to the article, Adams showed up at some point. These construction/building violations are so dangerous.

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offwhitegrey t1_jbcarow wrote

Not the city’s fault. The city is doing everything it can to enforce safety rules on construction sites, the problem is companies are employing low wage and unskilled workers to try to do these complex jobs

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mowotlarx t1_jbce4ba wrote

>The city is doing everything it can to enforce safety rules on construction sites,

Not in this administration. DOB is down over 20% of staff and Eric Adams has pushed that agency to "cut red tape" by reducing or eliminating fines for violations. He's pushing low to no enforcement as a "customer service" practice. It is fully the city's fault for choosing to look the other way to benefit slumlords. He neutered the agencies tasked with making buildings safe.

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offwhitegrey t1_jbceo90 wrote

Major construction sites employ site safety managers that are basically 3rd party safety enforcement on ALL major buildings. While DOB itself is down on staffing that doesn’t mean safety isn’t being enforced on site via these 3rd party companies.

I am a licensed site safety manager on a major buildings project so I would know how things work

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rainzer t1_jbd4zas wrote

I'm not sure how your statement refutes anything he said though.

If a construction company isn't punished for not hiring a reputable 3rd party safety enforcement company because of this chucklefuck mayor's mandate, how would safety be enforced?

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mowotlarx t1_jbe3frn wrote

>3rd party companies.

So, the construction site gets to choose their own company that they pay to "oversee" their work. And you expect them to actually act independently and keep everything in code? Sweet summer child...of course they aren't doing that at every site. They're directly paid by the people who need the go ahead to do whatever they want.

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robul0n t1_jbf1ar0 wrote

You're kinda right but it goes deeper than that. Pretty much all building inspections are performed by third party companies by ownership. In theory, the inspectors and safety people are there to keep the contractor in check so the owner doesn't get sued to oblivion when someone dies. In practice, there are a lot of owners who act as their own GCs with little actual oversight.

It's even worse when you realize that a lot of building plans are drawn up by developer's in-house CAD people, and then rubber-stamped by a retired 80 year old architect or engineer that's basically sold their stamp.

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