NYCCentrist t1_jaq637y wrote
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> then i preceded to ask if that same logic applied to muslims who commit terrorism
This is really neither an appropriate nor a relevant comparison. Many things you could choose, this wasn't it. Terrorism isn't a cultural practice, and suggesting as such is a bit damaging.
Double-Ad4986 t1_jaqqwwx wrote
first off neither is beating your kid like this article suggests they are doing in yeshivas.
& two
islamic extremism is a cultural practice tho. it isn't part of the muslim religion as a whole, 100% of course. but if it isn't cultural then what is it? economical? obviously not. it's roots are anti-western & involve changing the cultural zeitgeist of regions globally. that's just pure fact. & if we're talking about values, traditions, & societal norms— that's literally the definition of culture
terrorism in general isn't cultural of course that should go without saying for you people. but islamic extremism isn't just outright terrorism—there's a whole set of customs & culture that are attached to it. many muslim's even agree. i know plenty from the middle east that have studied & lived through islamic extremism.
NYCCentrist t1_jari5pn wrote
> that should go without saying for you people
Ummm, "you people?" Who are you referring to?
> islamic extremism is a cultural practice tho.
You used the word terrorism originally. Extremism is very different. More accurately, I would call it conservatism, with extremism common especially in social and family matters.
Look, you won't see me defending Islamic (or any other conservative religious practices) at all. But I'm just pointing out that the comparison you originally made around terrorism as a cultural practice was wildly inaccurate. There were many examples to use, this wasn't the right one.
Double-Ad4986 t1_jarrpdi wrote
you people referring to all the ones arguing my point- including you.
sulaymanf t1_jar2d5o wrote
> islamic extremism is a cultural practice tho
No it isn’t.
> but if it isn’t cultural then what is it?
POLITICAL, obviously.
> that’s just pure fact.
No that’s ignorant racism on your part. The vast majority of Muslims live in democracies worldwide, they celebrate holidays and they even elect women as presidents and prime ministers. Extremism is not part of culture; are you going to claim that Americans burning down mosques is part of our culture too?
> terrorism in general isn’t cultural of course that should go without saying
Then what are you trying to argue about?
Double-Ad4986 t1_jarrl05 wrote
i would 100% argue that white supremacy has deep seeds in American culture. without a doubt, i would argue that. is it representative of all Americans? obviously not. but there's a reason we have so much white supremacy and extremism going on in this country such as islamiphobia. & it 100% has to do with America's founding culture and it's roots.
also terrorism isn't just islamic extremism. that should go without saying but i guess i have to spell that out for you.
sulaymanf t1_jarwvr8 wrote
White supremacy is not the same as religious extremism. And white supremacy is part of American history but it’s hardly mainstream American culture like you’re trying to claim for terrorism for Muslims. You’re really trying to stretch to defend a blatantly bigoted position you made earlier. Is terrorism a part of Colombian culture? No.
Double-Ad4986 t1_jas9rm0 wrote
No, but guerilla groups are definitely a part of the country. which is distinct to that territory. & i never said any of those things are or have to be mainstream either.
sulaymanf t1_jasa1g1 wrote
Guerilla groups that have to hide are now part of the culture in your mind? That’s like saying pedophilia is a part of American culture since it exists despite universal condemnation.
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