knockatize t1_jamnfbh wrote on March 2, 2023 at 3:02 PM

Reply to comment by marketingguy420 in Ban Corporal Punishment in Private Schools, New York Lawmakers Say by _Maxolotl

They did do it already, back in 1985.

What they don’t do is enforce it. So they’re going to pass a redundant bill, pat themselves on the back for their performative compassion, then go right back to not enforcing it.

ifiwereaplatypus t1_jan5z22 wrote on March 2, 2023 at 5:04 PM

FYI, the legislature doesn’t enforce laws, the executive does.

PiffityPoffity t1_janc3d2 wrote on March 2, 2023 at 5:43 PM

But it’s way easier to call the government useless and hypocritical if we pretend it’s an amorphous blob rather than a group of oft-competing interests with different levels of authority.

knockatize t1_jandcf6 wrote on March 2, 2023 at 5:51 PM

The legislature is supposed to come up with an enforcement budget when they write law that’s going to mean extra work/personnel.

Ideally.

But if all they’re about is free publicity, they blow that part off and leave it to somebody else to figure out.

ifiwereaplatypus t1_jannc6u wrote on March 2, 2023 at 7:02 PM

Enforcement budget…? Like a victim’s fund? I’m no specialist on this law but I think the executive presents a budget and the legislature approves it.

Spending bills originate in the house and is approved by the senate and sent up to the executive to create law but the authority to actually spend money from the fund is up to the executive, right?

Say Albany gives out money for this purpose to the various local municipalities (county, city, town, zone), and then their executive and/or enforcement agency has their own enforcement priorities… I’m not sure if the legislature can really be blamed here.

DadBodofanAmerican t1_jaqt0oc wrote on March 3, 2023 at 11:40 AM

In this case enforcement is handled by the State Education Department, which is not an executive agency. NYSED is controlled by the Board of Regents who are appointed by the state Assembly.

Relevant_Slide_7234 t1_jan7j4k wrote on March 2, 2023 at 5:14 PM

I thought for sure this was done already, because my boomer parents got hit in Catholic school, but in the 90s the nuns always said they weren’t allowed to hit us anymore.