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Everyoneeatshere t1_jakc8n1 wrote

Real life experience says otherwise. NYC is very much segregated esp for those who grew up here. Perhaps for ppl who move here in adulthood it’s a different experience

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LongIsland1995 t1_jakl5y1 wrote

Yeah but it was always like that.

And to be honest it's more complicated than that. Blacks and Latinos live together all over the Bronx, uptown Manhattan, Bushwick, parts of Queens like Jamaica. Asians and Latinos live in the same neighborhoods in much of Western/Central Queens. Whites and Asians live together in Northeast Queens.

So there are plenty of neighborhoods where at least 2 or 3 racial groups live together, but if you're looking for some sort of Sesame Street situation where a large number of whites, blacks, Latinos, and Asians all live together and interact, you won't find it.

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Everyoneeatshere t1_jaklemv wrote

All you have to do is take a look at the school cafeteria and see where the kids sit.

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cC2Panda t1_jamfcrz wrote

Kids migrate towards people they identify with most it happens everywhere. My wife went to a school that taught in English in India but the social groups split mostly on preferred languages from the outset and stayed that way all the way through. Kids that spoke Marathi were a clique, Hindi were a clique, Urdu another, and English it's own. So even within the same religion, castes and family wealth cliques formed and stayed based primarily on childhood language skills.

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Everyoneeatshere t1_jamfmin wrote

So what you are saying is segregated whether by choice or not

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cC2Panda t1_jami0w5 wrote

At the very least it takes a concerted effort not to fall into segregated cliques. There are social groups that actually do tend to be more diverse but they tend to be considered outsiders. Like when I was younger the mix of teens hanging out at Chinatown Fair playing Capcom vs SNK 2 with each other was way less segregated on race and instead just a group of gamer geeks.

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LongIsland1995 t1_jankta3 wrote

I can vouch for this. In high school, the nerdy kids (the type to do Naruto runs) had very diverse friend groups and still do.

While the "normies" mostly stuck to their own racial group.

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Rottimer t1_jamfagq wrote

Just look at the school, period. A lot of families in these diverse areas will not send their kids to the public schools.

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LongIsland1995 t1_jaklq4v wrote

I hear that even though a lot of high schools are diverse on paper, they are still are pretty segregated. I didn't go to HS in the boroughs but my experience was like that.

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survive_los_angeles t1_jamto7s wrote

yes you can now. brooklyn , bronx and queens.

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LongIsland1995 t1_janj408 wrote

Lol, where?

The only parts of the Bronx with a lot of white people are either wealthier neighborhoods like Riverdale without many minorities, or neighborhoods that are in the process of white flight.

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survive_los_angeles t1_janjlym wrote

thats not what i've seen. Re bronx. Bronx is a big place. it might not just be in the areas you frequent yet

Also Fort Green projects has a influx of Chinese people who qualified for NYCHA moving in - changing the face of that area for the next couple of decades.

Even knocking the church down in FGP / ingersoll houses

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LongIsland1995 t1_jankzqq wrote

I've been all over the South Bronx and West Bronx and have seen few white people. I know there are plenty in Riverdale and Country Club, but how many black people live there?

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survive_los_angeles t1_janxo7x wrote

damn bro. im not even an expert at the Bronx - I am on the Brooklyn side and have seen all types of people and surprising changes to some neighborhoods.. even as we speak they are renovating the bronx museum for 2025 - the influx of people who want to / need to live in the city are finding bronx an alternative -- and some parts that are still social deserts are having small hip places open up to add a new layer of culture which will bring more people to make entire neighborhoods come back alive

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newestindustry t1_jamu2he wrote

I don’t think that’s really true, the Lower East Side being the most obvious example. There are plenty of places in the outer boroughs with everyone.

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LongIsland1995 t1_janiyok wrote

That's not a great example, the black population in the LES mostly lives in the housing projects.

I will give you though, that people of all backgrounds hang out in the LES.

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whata2021 t1_jakp22c wrote

Latinos aren’t a racial group

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LongIsland1995 t1_jakr838 wrote

No, but they're viewed as a de facto racial group. And every Latino neighborhood in NYC is pan-Latino more or less anyway.

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CommonNotCommons t1_jakhvy0 wrote

Oh well if your anecdote can trump empirical research then I suppose I have no choice but to believe you

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BringMeInfo t1_jam2m4u wrote

That first sentence should read “Anecdotes say otherwise.”

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TizonaBlu t1_jank3xf wrote

It just depends on where you are, no? I’m in Manhattan and it can’t be more diverse everywhere.

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Everyoneeatshere t1_jankbfz wrote

How many are commuters nd how many actual live there. Do the ppl mingle or keep to themselves or within their group.

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