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k1lk1 t1_j8f50n4 wrote

Reply to comment by PandaJ108 in MULTIPLE PEDESTRIANS STRUCK BY U-HAUL TRUCK IN BAY RIDGE, BROOKLYN by Darth_Monkey

Likely this is a stolen truck then?

So probably yet another entirely senseless tragedy that could have been prevented if we ever just cracked down on lawless behavior, and got mentally ill vagrants psychiatric help.

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ctannr t1_j8h114x wrote

maybe not stolen, uhauls are dirt cheap and actually kinda make sense for a homeless person who is not totally destitute when it comes to money

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MarquisEXB t1_j8j3zwx wrote

Agree that we need to take real action to curb homelessness and help the mentally ill. Addressing homelessness is usually done by creating free/inexpensive housing. The latter would be solved with true government available healthcare.

The problem with implementing either is a sizeable percentage of the population won't tolerate people getting stuff for free, and will vociferous oppose and vote against their tax money going to "moochers". The "they bought filet mignon with food stamps" style memes would be everywhere.

So we'll probably end up doing what we always do. Give more money to cops and hope they can sort it out. (Hint: At $11B, it's the most expensive PD in the country, and they are not equipped to solve homelessness.)

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DifficultyNext7666 t1_j8jlk4o wrote

I mean i think the big pushback is everyone seeing how fucking bad NYCHA buildings are treated by the people that live there

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SSG_SSG_BloodMoon t1_j8f827z wrote

> and got mentally ill vagrants psychiatric help.

... By force? Is that what you mean? Dude had no priors

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k1lk1 t1_j8f8lvz wrote

Yes he does. Stabbed his brother in 2015. Arrested repeatedly.

https://pix11.com/news/local-news/brooklyn/suspect-in-brooklyn-u-haul-rampage-was-acting-out-not-taking-his-medications-son-says/

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SSG_SSG_BloodMoon t1_j8f97sx wrote

Welp. Sorry, earlier reporting.

Oddly blase reaction from the son. Says his dad does "very frequently [does] something like this". Maybe he gave the interview before reading the news

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k1lk1 t1_j8fbeb4 wrote

The transcription of his words may not have conveyed the sadness or anger. Also it sounds like the son is mostly estranged from the father.

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PandaJ108 t1_j8grae6 wrote

Great, a mentally ill individual with a documented history of violence is now responsible for killing someone. It seems this country is incapable of dealing with violent mentally ill people prior to them killing someone.

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boxer_dogs_dance t1_j8gv6dg wrote

The history of the end of long term inpatient options for most patients is well documented. The abuses in the bad old days were real and horrific, but proposed replacement care for closed institutions was never implemented or budgeted for. Police, social workers, medical staff all have fewer options than they need to solve the problem until someone earns a lock down space in a hospital for the criminally insane by doing something like this. Everyone with a stake in city life should be doing what they can to hold government feet to the fire to change things and make inpatient care available earlier and more often. Just my two cents, but you are right. We are currently handling this issue wrong across the country.

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ICantThinkOfANameBud t1_j8i0ugd wrote

As someone who has been medicated by force, it doesn't hold up for long. You get medicated, a 2-6 week stay in a psych ward, and then you're out. They set up appointments and stuff for you to continue care, but no one checks to make sure that you go to them. I would get out and go off of my medication immediately, just to end up back a week or two later.

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