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Unlucky_Lawfulness51 t1_j9dt0yb wrote

How does a DNA prove you are of Jewish decent other than prove you have heritage from a certain region?

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Dragon_Fisting t1_j9e4hov wrote

Jewish communities have been largely insular for hundreds of years due to both their own religious practices and discrimination against them, especially in Europe. An Ashkenazi Jew and a German or a Pole may both be able to trace 500 years of ancestry in the same region, the same village even, but still be genetically distinct.

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tinydancer_inurhand t1_j9fpu81 wrote

The murky part though is many Iberian descending people like Latinos have some very distant Jewish ancestry because persecuted Jews fled to the new world. Now this is mostly Spanish ancestry but Portuguese ancestry can have the tiniest amount of Ashkenazi DNA too. Almost 1/4 of Latinos have Jewish DNA.

https://m.jpost.com/magazine/genetic-research-almost-25-percent-of-latinos-hispanics-have-jewish-dna-581959/amp

I totally see him pulling a Warren and finding 0.5% and using that as a told you so. Meanwhile I’m 1.4% and I would never in my life claim to be Jewish cause I actually know what it means to be Jewish. Same reason I’m 59% indigenous by DNA but also wouldn’t claim to be Native American.

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[deleted] t1_j9e3i5u wrote

Unlike most other religions , Judaism is almost exclusively passed down by birth and is viewed as an ethnicity in and of itself. So yes it would be possible for a DNA test to pick up Jewish genetics (ex mitochondrial haplogroup K is a good indicator).

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Unlucky_Lawfulness51 t1_j9ennx8 wrote

Aren't Muslims and Jewish from the same region?

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Moogle02 t1_j9ep6zd wrote

Most Jews (especially in NYC) are Ashkenazi, and likely haven't had ancestors in the Middle East since shortly after the fall of the Roman Empire. Granted, there are some communities that are from the Middle East/North African area, but even they usually did not share the same communities as Muslims.

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Unlucky_Lawfulness51 t1_j9eq6no wrote

So it's not genetic. No specific common ancestor is what you are saying.

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patsboston t1_j9etn8w wrote

It’s an ethnoreligion which is different than a religion.

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PatrickMaloney1 t1_j9f3knn wrote

The answer is yes for some aspects and no for others. It’s a complicated topic. You have gotten good answers so far

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harlemtechie t1_j9dufmf wrote

I'm mad, bc I visit the ancestry sub, and people have it in their results.

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mowotlarx t1_j9eoscx wrote

You're mad because people's genetics indicate that they have Ashkenazi or Sephardic Jewish heritage? Ever wonder why it's so easy to pinpoint that on DNA results? It's almost as if these were smaller insular ethnic groups who have been systematically banished from multiple countries and murdered because of their faith and background. Do a second of research before commenting, it would have answered your question.

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harlemtechie t1_j9g0qi4 wrote

Calm down. Anyways, it apparently is gonna help Santos so I guess you're happy af.

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mowotlarx t1_j9gdp84 wrote

You seem really defensive and irrationally angry about this very niche Jewish issue. But, sure, I'm the one who needs to "calm down."

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harlemtechie t1_j9gdw33 wrote

I'm still mad off the downvotes on the posts of the people telling the subs what Elizabeth Warren did to my people. Apparently, people think cultural genocide is cute.... like I'm mad at you and mad other people in here rn. You're pro genocide imo.

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mowotlarx t1_j9geyox wrote

>You're pro genocide imo.

...Excuse me? I am commenting on a comment chain of you being antisemitic, I have no idea what Elizabeth Warren comment you're talking about (this isn't the one), and you're here suggesting I am the one supporting genocide?

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harlemtechie t1_j9ggnl3 wrote

so you skipped over mad comments just to get to this one? Why?

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To be honest, I really do not believe thats what happened.....how did you ignore it?

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Anyways, if youre telling me that he can prove it on Ancestry, then I'll take back what he said. I guess he is Jewish if it shows on Ancestry and by your reaction to it all, then we all must say he's Jewish. I just thought that giving him that would alleviate him on his lies, so I was mad, but I guess its ok now. Damn... Just stop posting him bc it throws so much hypocrisy about what happened to my people in my face...it appears, according to this info, the People V Santos case is over now...good

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mowotlarx t1_j9hgnsf wrote

I never said he was Jewish culturally, ethnically or by religion. I was explaining to you why someone could have "Jewish" DNA. Pay attention.

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harlemtechie t1_j9hlqcy wrote

Then we both agree. Then move on. I brought my comment from another comment I had in this whole post.

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