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Johnnadawearsglasses t1_j6z2xkq wrote

People who side with developers on things like this never realize that the developer needs to negotiate much more than the city does. Standing firm is how you get maximum concessions. I guarantee that the deal reached here will be miles better than what was on the table months ago.

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InfernalTest t1_j71p0b5 wrote

it should be noted that the people who are criticizing this deal dont even LIVE in jordans district - and im sure they dont talk to the people that live there or interact with them in any meaningful way ....

so it shouldnt be lost : its a bit of irony of so called progressives who recognize the historic disregard for black and brown peoples voices to be acknowledged doing the shit the say are against and disregarding the voice of the representative of black and brown people....

vanity is a sweet wine but hypocrisy is vintage....

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Empty_Economist t1_j743k2q wrote

This isn't a fucking race thing, this is a NYC has a crisis in housing thing and opposing building 900+ new units on the spot of an empty goddamn lot means you are complicit in that crisis.

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InfernalTest t1_j74oes0 wrote

no it IS most definitely a race thing - maybe not for you but certainly for the longtime residents of Harlem who wont benefit at all by getting a bunch of apts that they cant afford ( when the avg neighborhood income is something like 65K /year ) nor qualify to live in ( because the qualification is way beneath what a person let alone a family can actually afford ) if the rents start out at 2500 and up a month for a 1 BR ...which is exactly is the case with a lot of these developed properties that offer "set aside" apts.

they arent interested in courting people who live in the neighborhood or families ( otherwise they wouldnt just offer set aside apts that only go up to 1BR ) they are interested in renting to some high end earner and turning Harlem into a theme park ride ....

no thanks .

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Empty_Economist t1_j74vfzl wrote

Lol so instead they get a truck stop. Also, they're going to get priced out even faster if there isn't new development, because limiting supply will just keep driving up prices. So your proposal is basically to screw over everyone, residents who will get priced out and everyone else in the city who wants development to bring prices under control.

And that still has nothing to do with race. You're arguing for neighborhoods of a many million person city to get veto power over development we all desperately need. Nope. Thankfully people are coming around and rejecting such foolish viewpoints.

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Fresh720 t1_j75jp3o wrote

Nah, Black folks can be annoying too. The threat of displacement and gentrification is real, but the solution to that isn't to block almost every new build that's proposed in the city. We should demand more non-market or public housing with mechanisms in place so your rent isn't raised over a certain percentage after your lease is up.

Their anger should be directed at Suffolk and Nassau county who ranks on the bottom for permit approvals for new builds, putting extra strain on housing inventory in NYC. Their anger should be directed at their representatives who believes in grandstanding over helping their constituents. Their anger should be directed at NY for being the worst city in the East for keeping up with housing demand which has resulted in a population decline for tge past 10 years.

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