im_not_bovvered t1_j6y7mib wrote
Reply to comment by spicytoastaficionado in NYPD Sweeps Migrants from Manhattan Hotel Following Days of Protest by drpvn
>That is what communities in El Paso have been dealing with for the past 2+ years.
Don't they get federal resources deal with it? Also NYC also has an illegal immigration problem... they just come on planes and quietly stay.
movingtobay2019 t1_j6yg9ie wrote
It's a couple thousand dollars for each migrant. No where near enough for any city to handle this.
im_not_bovvered t1_j6yi0az wrote
There needs to be a solution. But to act like NYC doesn't have an illegal immigrant issue is also wrong. It's not like these people being bussed here are the only illegal immigrants here.
I'm totally fine with migrants being sent here as long as we get Federal help - because right now NYC taxpayers are footing this bill. And we already pay more into the tax system than, say, people in Texas.
sexychineseguy t1_j715yrx wrote
> And we already pay more into the tax system than, say, people in Texas.
And Bezos pays more in sales tax than all your taxes combined.
Wealthier people pay more taxes. NYC has a lot of rich people. Unless you're saying that shouldn't be the case and billionaires should get a flat tax that's not based on income?
im_not_bovvered t1_j71yqvu wrote
You think everyone who lives in NYC is wealthy? Lol ok.
Also:
https://www.businessinsider.com/26-billionaires-paid-fraction-in-taxes-average-american-owes-2022-5
My middle class ass is sitting here subsidizing the bad decisions of red states while I work 70 hours a week. But go off.
sexychineseguy t1_j75oyv6 wrote
> My middle class ass is sitting here subsidizing the bad decisions of red states while I work 70 hours a week. But go off.
So you pay more taxes than a billionaire does? Bullshit. Billionaires pay more in any of sales tax, payroll tax, RE tax, etc than you do.
spicytoastaficionado t1_j6yi5po wrote
Again, federal humanitarian resources amount to grants provided to national nonprofits like United Way and Catholic Charities, who then disperse the funds to local charity networks.
These grants are useful for short-term aid when migrants first arrive, but it is not enough for anything long-term.
It is also millions of dollars in aid when billions are needed.
im_not_bovvered t1_j6yjqgj wrote
Then billions should be granted. But Texas is getting, for example, and using Federal money (they used plenty of coronavirus aid for migrant purposes) and places like NYC are getting the money from taxpayers.
I don't know why people automatically think NYC is a-ok with illegal immigration. But border states are spending their own money to stick it to other states.
NYC gets plenty of illegal immigration. Also, border states in the south cry about having illegal immigrants but who is employing these people? Why are employers not cracked down on for employing people for cheap labor? I'm all for something being done but it has to be comprehensive. Sending migrants up north to "stick it to the libs" while illegal immigrants are employed to do labor nobody else wants to do isn't going to help anything or anyone.
Figbud t1_j6yoeus wrote
It's not an illegal immigration problem it's a having opportunities for a decent life thing ✨
im_not_bovvered t1_j6ypu6r wrote
It is an illegal immigration problem. People visit and overstay their visas and just blend in all the time. People bring their families over.
Not everyone is an asylum seeker - I sympathize with people wanting better lives, but there are plenty of citizens who we need to provide with better lives first. NYC does not have the resources.
Figbud t1_j6yql24 wrote
Ok I thought you were against undocumented immigration as a whole concept, I didn't realize you were pointing out an urgency problem
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