Langstarr t1_j4zr7yw wrote
Reply to comment by Raevix in Woman sues concert venue after getting so drunk she blew up a home, caused $15M in damages by EyeWantItThatWay
For Americans -- your state may have Dram Shop laws, which are the same as this Canadian fellow has outlined. I used to bartend in NYC and it was my legal responsibility to cut people off and I could and would be held liable in an overserving situation like this.
Aldous_Hoaxley t1_j4zxjv7 wrote
That's how I learned to order Tito's instead of Dripping Springs vodka in bars. Trying to pronounce the latter after a few drinks would get me cut off immediately.
CunningLinguist222 t1_j500eyi wrote
drrpen sperngs
JonnySnowflake t1_j501jah wrote
Same idea, but I switched to Pall Malls in college because I couldn't pronounce "Marlboro" after walking through the cold to get to the gas station
LovsickPrfectaTerain t1_j502ymq wrote
I never tried. Even if you called me marbleblows they'd sell em. I always called em Marlbros and they still sold em.
MonsieurReynard t1_j522xxo wrote
The new fun is American spirits. They come in like 24 varieties distinguished by slightly different colored packs. And no one knows the proper name, everyone just says the color. So it's "American Spirit Blue" or "American Spirit yellow." But with so many there are like four shades of blue and four shades of yellow now. And around me the gas stations are mostly staffed by people whose first language is Urdu or Bengali (perfectly nice people, they just don't necessarily know every English color term) and so you get into a whole thing of "American spirit gold, no the darker yellow, no that's like mustard, the GOLD, yeah no, the next one, good now up one row, yeah those." I imagine it would be challenging if you were drunk.
LovsickPrfectaTerain t1_j54qt1m wrote
Yep. Can't advertise by flavor, no lights or ultralights anymore, especially menthols.
MonsieurReynard t1_j522akx wrote
I could see "Tito's" going wrong in amusing ways too.
Me I like Tennessee whiskey and bug spray, but it's a beast to order "Jack n Off" when I'm wasted.
rct1 t1_j527exp wrote
Filing that for the next fishing trip. Cheers
MonsieurReynard t1_j52vsok wrote
Learned it from a hunting buddy, glad it will survive
Thunderhorse74 t1_j51vvv8 wrote
This redditor does local Texas vodka...
MonsieurReynard t1_j5231wr wrote
You can buy Tito's around me in rural Massachusetts. It's been a national brand for a while now.
ETA I just checked and they now have a ten story distillery and made 3.8 million cases of Tito's last year!
DFG57 t1_j510r5t wrote
Yep. Also a former bartender here. If I served someone who was obviously drunk I could be held liable for what they did when they left the bar. But I believe there would have to be witnesses that the drunk was falling down or stumbling, slurring, etc. and I served them anyway. There was a regular customer who spent six months in jail after his sixth DUI and the night he got out he stumbled into the bar and asked for a scotch rocks. I told him I wasn't serving him because he was too drunk and he responded "No, it's OK. I quit driving." So he had his priorities all set.
Caldren57 t1_j5287ne wrote
I get it, but as a bartender at a concert where there are several bars, it's hard to see who actually gets the drink, a male companion, boyfriend, husband, whomever, buys 2 at a time, at 1 station. Next station 2 more, come back to 1 get 2 more etc... and if there are 3 or more, gimme a break. Wheeeeee.
DFG57 t1_j528uum wrote
Agreed. How the hell am I on the hook for someone who is able to pronounce “vodka rocks” then walk away? If I have to lift his head off the bar to ask if he wants another that’s a different story. If this suit collects any money I hope she never sees a penny of it.
daschowdertailz t1_j54ggip wrote
If you got an extra 23 bucks look into taking the Oregon Liquor Control Commission (olcc) alcohol permit test. Oregon has the strictest liquor laws in the US. Gotta be a card holder to do bar and gotta take the course and test every 3 years now I believe.
keith0211 t1_j51t545 wrote
Generally, though, those laws only allow people injured by the drunk person to sue the venue. In the vast majority of places in the US, the drunk person cannot get damages.
BA_calls t1_j530jyc wrote
That seems to be what’s happening. The $15M of damage is probably what she’s been sued for.
Rheum42 t1_j51kwqp wrote
I think it's ridiculous that bartenders are held liable for other people's drinking problems
Blue_Jays t1_j52u7ul wrote
That would be comparable to casinos being held liable for people losing money due to their gambling addictions and we know that ain't happening!
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