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DraxtortheLock t1_j6er1kw wrote

Reply to comment by Carvelt in Rick Astley sues Yung Gravy over alleged Never Gonna Give You Up imitation by redlightist

>The rapper and his team allegedly cleared the use of the underlying musical composition of Never Gonna Give You Up, which was written by Stock Aitken Waterman.

>This allowed them to recreate music and lyrics from the original song for their own track, a process known as interpolating.

From the article

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Juan-More-Taco t1_j6fl4kx wrote

Unbelievably weird for you to not quote the very next line too.

>However, Astley's lawyers said: "A license to use the original underlying musical composition does not authorise the stealing of the artist's voice in the original recording."

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DraxtortheLock t1_j6fxd28 wrote

I was adding context that "using the whole song" like the person I responded to is irrelevant. The entire point of the lawsuit is the vocals, not the use of the song.
Edit: Also disproving the claim he did it without permission

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elixier t1_j6exs59 wrote

Yeah, and if you listen to the song, there have been cases won on songs that sounded way less like the original than this one does

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One-Almond5858 t1_j6f0ta8 wrote

>The rapper and his team allegedly cleared the use of the underlying musical composition of Never Gonna Give You Up

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elixier t1_j6f1ggs wrote

Lol clearly not, since otherwise Ricks legal team wouldn't be suing them lol

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lksdjsdk t1_j6f4pl3 wrote

Tey reading the article.

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Juan-More-Taco t1_j6fl986 wrote

Why don't you?

>However, Astley's lawyers said: "A license to use the original underlying musical composition does not authorise the stealing of the artist's voice in the original recording."

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lksdjsdk t1_j6h266v wrote

That's what I was referring to.

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DraxtortheLock t1_j6eyr63 wrote

Those songs do not interpolate. There's a difference between copying a beat or sound and getting clearance to interpolate an existing song

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bossmt_2 t1_j6f9mqf wrote

Yeah and the Verve cleared to sample the Orchestral Version of the Last Time, they still were sued and lost songwriting credits

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DraxtortheLock t1_j6fesgu wrote

That's because the agreement was for something like a few notes of the original song, not interpolation. Interpolating is literally rerecording the same song essentially, instead of sampling like Verve had alleged in their agreement.

Besides this lawsuit isn't even about the song itself, it's about them having someone essentially impersonating Astley. Not the lyrics themselves.

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bossmt_2 t1_j6flvcq wrote

Bittersweet symphony was a sample. It wasn't an interpolation. Interpolation is Gangsta's Paradise interpolating Pasttime Paradise. Interpolation is what Yung Gravy is doing when he takes the melody of Never Gonna Give You Up and sings different words.

Bittersweet Symphony doesn't take the melody from the Last Time. It samples the riff which they got permission to do. But what happened is a lawsuit from essentially a greedy manager who owned the Stones Catalogue and wanted to make a ton of money and knew they had the Verve over the barrel.

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mypantsareonmyhead t1_j6fon66 wrote

I'm pretty sure the "journalist' who wrote that thinks that Stock Aitken Waterman is a person.

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