Submitted by koavf t3_10k6s9s in nottheonion
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Dirtywizard2000 t1_j5os35m wrote
You can take our lives but not our concert tickets lol
Hi_Im_Dadbot t1_j5osi51 wrote
Swift should do a concert for them there to say thanks. Then have Ticketmaster sell the tickets to it, just to annoy everyone.
blahbleh112233 t1_j5oskcd wrote
Lemme guess, solidly middle class people are gonna show up for an hour before they realize its too cold to go further.
fatnipple t1_j5osklh wrote
It's giving yassified Jan 6.
scottstaphinfection t1_j5osm5v wrote
it’s more to do with them being practically a monopoly, controlling a market and it’s prices
ventricles t1_j5ovqmm wrote
A win is a win
cannabination t1_j5ow3sn wrote
I don't think their unholy union with live Nation would be legal in any industry, certainly not when paired with their business practices. Idk why you think the music industry should have any less consumer protections than any other, but you're wrong.
willstr1 t1_j5ow7pt wrote
It would be absolutely iconic if Swift, the queen of breakup songs, ends up being the one to breakup the Ticketmaster monopoly
myops_rock t1_j5owkdv wrote
They are practically a monopoly but that reflects a much broader problem and the focus on fucking concert tickets is pathetic and cowardly. That’s our government…
myops_rock t1_j5owrzq wrote
I don’t think it should have any less protections or these actions are justified. But I think the focus on fucking concert tickets is pathetic and cowardly given how broadly antitrust is a problem in our economy.
cannabination t1_j5oxzdq wrote
I mean, they're the busting head of every single person that sees a concert in a venue of any size, anywhere in the country... seems like that might make some folks mad enough to say something.
There are protests against a lot dumber things than this... remember the truckers in dc last year?
Leiryn t1_j5oy7v5 wrote
Why does it take a protest to even try to get anything good done in this country, fucking Republicans. Though democrats aren't much better at all
Warpzit t1_j5p0h8l wrote
Ticketmaster will die within the next 10 years. They are hated too much. I suspect NFTs will take over and finally find a good application everyone can get behind. The traceability will ruin it for scammers and cheaters.
Fascist_are_horrible t1_j5p0vbt wrote
I wonder how many swifties will get surprised that most of those fees go directly to the performer. While ticketmaster is a monopoly, it also plays the bad guy for the artists, so they can charge more.
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p4rty_sl0th t1_j5p6ju7 wrote
the weaponization of the Swifties may prove to be a formidable force. Good luck!
AccidentalAbrasion t1_j5p6v82 wrote
May swifties reign supreme.
montemanm1 t1_j5p82ns wrote
Is it the artists that sign contracts with Ticketbastards, or the venues, the record companies, or some combination?
Brewing_Tea t1_j5p8bbd wrote
>I suspect NFTs will take over
Will they, now?
myops_rock t1_j5p9mpg wrote
Yup. The monopoly on concert promotion and ticket sales is bad. But I see it as a secondary concern because cocncerts aren’t essential. You could never see another live act and you would survive.
I do recall the Canadian truckers protesting against vaccination requirements to drive alone in their trucks and the Canadian government’s heavy handed response because those protests were effective. I think that it was disgusting how powerful people coerced many to take vaccines they didn’t want by threatening their livelihoods. That is not how individual health decisions should be made.
koavf OP t1_j5pa85i wrote
>Ticketmaster will die within the next 10 years. They are hated too much. I suspect NFTs will take over and finally find a good application everyone can get behind. The traceability will ruin it for scammers and cheaters.
!RemindMe 3650 days
jiivanili t1_j5pb6f9 wrote
If cvs and walgreens tried to merge like this, it would be a huge problem. I use this example because I work in the pharmaceutical industry. It would not be accepted at all because the price gouging would be even worse than what it is already.
the_blessed_unrest t1_j5pc0c1 wrote
Idk, is there a financial incentive for her to break it up? I can’t see her caring (like, truly caring, not just making empty statements) otherwise
the_blessed_unrest t1_j5pc4e6 wrote
Well at least they’re not sending death threats to a young black actress this time
cannabination t1_j5pdxz9 wrote
I'm talking about the truckers driving around the beltway in DC. I'd say read an article about it, but I'm starting to suspect your world view isn't primarily evidence based.
Warpzit t1_j5pe4n6 wrote
It is already happening.
What people fail to realize with NFTs is that it is only a link entered into a shared database. Value lies in tracing ownership which is perfect for ticket systems and like.
cannabination t1_j5pef4n wrote
It's more like Walgreens buying CVS and then merging with the only pharmaceutical company in the world.
supercyberlurker t1_j5pemj1 wrote
I'm not even really a Taylor Swift fan and I'm in support of them.
Ticketmaster should have been fixed years ago but wasn't because they bought the right politicians. It's shameful that we have to rely on activist fans because our government is failing to do their job.
LouQuacious t1_j5petx6 wrote
Phish fans have been vocal about Ticketbastard shenanigans for over 20yrs.
Sex_Fueled_Squirrel t1_j5pevdb wrote
The Canadian government also coerces them into driving sober by threatening their livelihoods if they don't.
Talk about tyranny. That's not how individual health decisions like when and where I get to drink should be made. My body, my choice!
willstr1 t1_j5phh90 wrote
She doesn't necessarily need to care, but the Ticketmaster snafu that screwed over her fans is why we are finally seeing action against the monopoly.
woakula t1_j5phpy3 wrote
as a non concert goer I've never heard anything good about ticketmaster. As far as I can tell while it wouldn't help her financially, it would cement her reputation kind of like a David versus Goliath situation. Not to say Swift is a small artist by any means, but many artists over the years have tried and failed to stay out of ticketmaster's monopoly. Green Day, Pearl Jam, Springsteen... oh god I'm aging myself lol.
LordOfHorns t1_j5picol wrote
It was already ridiculous, but this was the straw that broke the camels back
CrashnServers t1_j5pjwm2 wrote
People who still have faith in the government is cute to see. 🤭
Ijusthadtosayit55 t1_j5pu1iq wrote
Are they bringing their parents along?
spamky23 t1_j5pu5pg wrote
Godspeed
byronicbluez t1_j5puyco wrote
I have faith in the government to fix minor problems while avoiding the real issues like Healthcare, Inflation, Gun Violence, etc.
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Alert-Mud-672 t1_j5px5qo wrote
Pearl Jam tried.
hammajammah t1_j5py5ia wrote
I say go for it
BadBrains16 t1_j5pzf3w wrote
TM/Live Nation own the bulk of the larger and mid sized venues nationwide. The artists are under contract for a set number of shows at a set price. All of those extra fees and variable “Platinum” pricing all go to TM/Live Nation, not the artist. The artist knows this when they sign up for a tour. However, since TM/Live Nation is signing their checks the artist isn’t going to complain. Sucks for the fans, both new and old.
adamttaylor t1_j5pzld2 wrote
To be fair, it is actually a problem that the US needs to resolve.....
koavf OP t1_j5pzo4z wrote
It 100% is: this is a monopoly that clearly hurts consumers.
DamonFields t1_j5q4p80 wrote
Good. Someone needs to do something.
ADDandKinky t1_j5q8kt6 wrote
It’s time to swiftly in here. I’m Mr. Bulldog ..
TypicalJeepDriver t1_j5qd90y wrote
I mean honestly, anyone and everywhere who has ever attended a concert or event where Ticketmaster applied fees should protest. It’s absolutely ridiculous the fees they’re able to tack on and additionally how they’re scalping their own tickets.
sableee t1_j5qelhc wrote
I had a bad experience with my ticketmaster ticket for Bon Iver, I’d love to protest this shit monopoly that is ticketf**ker
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MegaAscension t1_j5qiog5 wrote
Ticketmaster owns nearly all the large venues. Ticketmaster also own merch distribution companies. They also own artist promotion companies. So if an artist cuts ties with Ticketmaster, they get locked out of really everything. Ticketmaster has a whopping 300+ subsidiaries. Link to everything they own- https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1335258/000119312511050243/dex211.htm
They also make up 89% of ticket revenue shares.
Artists don't have much of an option.
ShiftSouth t1_j5qmu79 wrote
For once the government is actually doing their job and enforcing anti-trust laws.
i_need_salvia t1_j5qnpt4 wrote
Godspeed
GoPointers t1_j5qopw3 wrote
Yup, DOJ had a great chance to fix this in the 90s but Ticketmaster bought the right politicians.
R_V_Z t1_j5qrx1v wrote
That's what Safeway and Kroger are attempting. Hope the regulatory agency says no.
ExRockstar t1_j5qvsc8 wrote
Wouldn't want to run into one of those Swifties in a dark alley
dtmfadvice t1_j5qx0b2 wrote
Yeah. Ticketmaster sucks, no doubt about it, but it's separate from the fact remains that an artist can only perform so many shows per year, and that means there are only so many tickets.
So, yes, break up their shitty monopoly. It'll help venues, it'll help less famous artists, it'll probably help regular fans of less famous artists.
But it won't make Taylor Swift tickets easier to get or cheaper.
jiivanili t1_j5qy1my wrote
Kroger is already a parent company for a significant number of other stores so I really hope they don't allow it.
sexybimbogf t1_j5r1q6v wrote
they what 💀
TupperCoLLC t1_j5r1zg5 wrote
Good
TupperCoLLC t1_j5r22aa wrote
It’s far from perfect but it’s our best chance
or whatever Churchill said
sexybimbogf t1_j5r2h04 wrote
well I trust them to do the second part
sexybimbogf t1_j5r2t3u wrote
tb to that time switfies stormed the US Capitol changing "hang Mike Pence" and tried to overthrow the US Government. they even brought weapons and some of them wore confederate or nazi imagery!
Kind_Bullfrog_4073 t1_j5r93s5 wrote
Shouldnt they protest outside the Ticketmaster office?
SweetCosmicPope t1_j5rbvl9 wrote
It certainly won't make them easier to get. It MIGHT at least reign in some of the cost if it causes them to ditch dynamic pricing and stuff. They're still going to get fleeced by the scalpers, but that's a completely separate problem that needs to be addressed, as well.
Johnmegaman72 t1_j5re80g wrote
Taylor will make a song about this isn't she?
GatoradeNipples t1_j5rk0w9 wrote
>Idk, is there a financial incentive for her to break it up?
I mean, her fanbase is kinda forcing her hand on this one. If she goes against what the Swifties want, they'll just find a new pop star to define their identity around, and she's out of a job.
myops_rock t1_j5rpx94 wrote
The copycat shit in DC was lame. The leaf truckers that were their inspiration were great. They showed us little Trudeau’s fascist colors.
I suspect our world view’s are vastly different. I expect our lives experiences are vastly different. I expect you and I have very different ideas about how to determine what is true.
We all like evidence that confirms our biases. Good luck with your pretensions.
texasdeafdogs t1_j5rq6a5 wrote
People are capable of addressing more than 1 thing at a time too.
Optimistic__Elephant t1_j5rsxnz wrote
Artists love to criticize ticketmaster, but the truth is they’re all on cahoots. Artists and venues don’t want to be the bad guy charging high prices. So they let Ticketmaster take the role of the villain and kicks back a good portion of those fees to the venue and artist.
myops_rock t1_j5rudyy wrote
Indeed. Our government is very good at enriching the people in it and their families while acting at the behest of people with tremendous wealth. They even manage to squeeze in time to lie through their teeth to us. Multitasking.
MoCapBartender t1_j5ruhbo wrote
It's really amazing what protesting can accomplish when it doesn't threaten the rich.
Saitoh17 t1_j5rw8hs wrote
She also has to do business with a monopoly, it's not like she's unaffected by it.
Ultraferret107 t1_j5rym1v wrote
I can roll with this EDIT: if any mods see this am i still permabanned for posting not-oniony-enough articles?
myops_rock t1_j5ryxcc wrote
For real. When it suits their interests they’ll even subsidize it!
Spire_Citron t1_j5s1rts wrote
We already have ways of tracking the ownership of tickets. That's not where the issue is.
minneapple79 t1_j5s1s52 wrote
It also won’t fix bots or scalpers. I think if Ticketmaster had maybe had a semi-competent ticket sale (which hello, they should be able to do) this wouldn’t be an issue at all. People got pissed off after they were in the queues all day and then kicked off or didn’t get tickets after waiting for so long.
And yeah, artists generally earn more from touring than actual music sales. Not sure how that works with an artist like Swift who sells a lot of music, and I think she owns the rights to her music as well.
Puzzleheaded_Pie_888 t1_j5scmm8 wrote
Is about to get basic
Warpzit t1_j5sebh0 wrote
Kinda is. Ticketmaster sells the ticket to middlemen that are front running your orders in order to increase the price per ticket. Basically they are doing the same thing to ticket as is being done to the stock market.
Spire_Citron t1_j5sewi8 wrote
They could require a name when buying tickets and ID to get in if they wanted to make sure there would be no middlemen buying up tickets. There's nothing that can't be done around that using traditional methods that is only possible through NFTs.
acute_elbows t1_j5sfohd wrote
I love Pearl Jam, but I don’t think they ever had as large of a fan base as TSwift and let’s be honest, the GenX grunge fans aren’t that motivated to protest in DC
Unfair-Sector9506 t1_j5sjrw2 wrote
They still gonna buy the tickets...put your money where your mouth is and stop feeding ticket Master
lazzzym t1_j5sn3bs wrote
Fuck Ticketmaster.
thebadnews t1_j5son0v wrote
thats the spirit! darn those capitalist thugs in america!
koavf OP t1_j5tdvsz wrote
Kind_Bullfrog_4073 t1_j5tf1gw wrote
Why not? Government has thousands of more important things to deal with than the price of Taylor Swift concerts. Ticketmaster only has tickets to deal with.
koavf OP t1_j5tf582 wrote
Because that would waste their time: Ticketmaster aren't incentivized to end their monopoly, whereas protecting consumers' interests is the priority of several individuals and agencies in government.
Agreton t1_j5tlsh0 wrote
It sucks for the artists as well, considering they are the ones who own the music. Ticketmaster has been nothing but grift.
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Jubal7 t1_j5ymh7v wrote
Im a non concert-goer too but thats because I witnessed all my friends in college get scammed time and again trying to purchase tickets to their favorite bands. My young daughter just learned the hardway that she'll probably never see a Taylor Swift concert in her lifetime.
kangarooturd t1_j5z6lxu wrote
Get the water cannons ready!
The_Real_IT_Guy t1_j619lar wrote
Look how good that worked for racism!
myops_rock t1_j5opglo wrote
You know antitrust is dead when our government is reduced to focusing on “Swifties” and fucking concert tickets. What a fucking joke.