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Is12345aweakpassword t1_j4ba8cm wrote

Reply to comment by bomberesque1 in Paul Ryan says he 'had too much power' as House speaker by bomberesque1

Lol my reaction

“Yeah, I was there”

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teplightyear t1_j4dpquq wrote

Mine was "Then why did we have trillion dollar deficits from 2016-2018 when you had so much power and McConnell and Trump held the keys to the other two levers of power, Mr. Fiscal Responsibility?"

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printers_rock t1_j4ej9r1 wrote

Well if we give a shit at all about being right specifically, not just generally... Deficit by year:

Year Deficit (in Billions)
2016 585
2017 665
2018 779

Accuracy matters, otherwise you're not helping. You're one of those people where a lot of us end up in a position of "I agree with your overall point but I fucking hate the way you made it"

Not a good person to be, imo.

A better version of that general argument would be to simply ask why deficits rose during his speakership. Should also lump in 2015 at $442B and 2019 at $984B, to make the point even more obvious. You could, of course, make a very concrete form of that argument by laying out the premises that he is both a fiscal conservative as well as acknowledges directly himself that he wielded a tremendous amount of power. But we're not exactly interviewing him, so that's a bit unnecesary.

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