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MrsBagnet t1_j3zq733 wrote

"What is the most meaningless thing we can do to combat racism?" "Ooh, I know."

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Hm_Maybe_ t1_j40kuoi wrote

Next: "They dropped the term 'master's degree' because of the term's connection to slavery."

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thebeattakesme t1_j422d79 wrote

Lol they did it in real estate….sigh

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twotonekevin t1_j44nl2a wrote

I thought I was going crazy. I just saw a floor plan for a new construction the other day and it said something like “owner’s” bed and bath. I was so confused. I don’t see the point tbh. Owner doesn’t seem much better than master.

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pdonchev t1_j459jv9 wrote

It's definitely worse. Just make all bedrooms the same.

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nooshaw t1_j443qdf wrote

and in Tech. They removed master branch in git, master/slave drive, etc.

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MacaroniEast t1_j40hfu3 wrote

First you rob them blind, then you make them think you care!

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SpinningHead t1_j43gh1m wrote

Guaranteed middle-aged white women came up with this.

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Juliotti t1_j408dxc wrote

So are these "descendants who are offended by that term" in the room with us right now?

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[deleted] t1_j3zjy1c wrote

When did we start treating adults like babies?

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LeroyoJenkins t1_j3zsowv wrote

I mean, it is the USC, University of Spoiled Children (or Snorting Coke).

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CannedApples13 t1_j402gqc wrote

There are two sides to that coin, but one side does include entitled poses who’s parents “donated” to the school.

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LeroyoJenkins t1_j403tgn wrote

It is a joke, a have friends who went to USC, and they definitely aren't spoiled. But one does snort coke!

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Tuga_Lissabon t1_j40mn77 wrote

When they stopped being adults.

Really, in the emotional part of it, do you think these offencenicks are adults?

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TechFiend72 t1_j3zqg8t wrote

a while ago. mid-90s, early 2000s?

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sportspadawan13 t1_j40j4rc wrote

Wayyyy earlier. We let whiney adults build statues of the losers all over the States

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TechFiend72 t1_j43wggu wrote

I think that was different. Shouldn’t be conflated. The political discourse in the 80s was a lot different than mid 90s and it has degraded to what it is now.

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Spiritofhonour t1_j3zm8mo wrote

So can I still get a Master's degree at the USC School of Social Work?

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bsbbtnh t1_j40lfoc wrote

Yes. And the best part is Masters don't have to do field work!

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Ed_Durr t1_j3zl5mj wrote

Big schools like this hire dedicated Diversity & Inclusion staff to make sure they’re ok. The new bureaucracy can never declare that their work is done, because then they would be out of their (often) six-figure jobs, and thus they fabricate ever more ridiculous things to complain about.

Nobody is actually offended by the phrase “field work” because, guess what, everyone has recent ancestors who worked in the fields.

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Eldetorre t1_j419y5x wrote

This is yet another reason for the skyrocketing costs of higher ed, which has the effect of keeping it out of reach for more and more people of color.

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Brewing_Tea t1_j41ex4g wrote

Someone didn't learn grammar

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Eldetorre t1_j41nzx5 wrote

pedantic fool that doesn't understand the difference between (corrected) spelling and grammar.

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Verbanoun t1_j44cdrx wrote

I'm more and more convinced that work just involves ctrl+Fing "problematic terms" in company documents and calling it a day.

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JustTheFactsGirls t1_j4014gn wrote

The D & I people have to do something all day to justify their 6 figure salary

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CannedApples13 t1_j402cbz wrote

Trash it all you want, but kids of full time USC employees get to attend the school for free. No, not just administrators, counselors, etc. It’s anyone that is employed by USC. What other school does that?

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ffxivthrowaway03 t1_j41dqhx wrote

Uh... the vast majority of higher education facilities have similar policies. Very few people are ever in a position to take advantage of them because the person working there usually doesn't have college-age kids who want to go to that specific school. It's one of those pretty perks on paper that costs the schools almost nothing.

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Omegalazarus t1_j442mw6 wrote

Talk about permissive – indulgent parenting. I can't imagine if I could give my kid a free ride to a good public university and they declined because they didn't want to go to that specific school. So they sign off on several tens of thousands of dollars in debt.

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ffxivthrowaway03 t1_j448pt8 wrote

I mean... that's way too broad of a judgement there. It really depends on what they want to go to school for and what the school in question is. If they wanted to go to a good engineering school, for example, and I worked for a primarily liberal arts college without a real engineering program, it's not really a feasible option for them to attend.

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Omegalazarus t1_j449q67 wrote

Yeah man have them get their liberal arts degree and then they can go to an engineering school and pick up the last 12 hours. I mean that's the point of a university, right? Is it a uniting force of several colleges so that a broad base of study can be completed by students who want various disciplines?

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ffxivthrowaway03 t1_j46eeqq wrote

That's not really a viable strategy, a liberal arts degree is going to be missing the vast majority of high level math and science prerequisites for a lot of STEM programs, and not teach any of the entry level specialized prereqs and would add years to the program. You can't just get a degree in whatever and then shotgun an entire 4 year STEM program at the end of it, it doesn't work that way. Not to mention how valuable getting involved with the professors and in the educational community can be for kickstarting your professional networking and opening opportunities.

In that situation they'd be far better off just going to a community college with a decent program for whatever they want, getting their associates in the relevant field, and transferring into a 4 year program from there.

Which hypotheticals aside, is entirely the point - you can't just assume someone is an entitled, wasteful brat for pursuing a specific educational path instead of the one that just happens to be "free." Hell, maybe they don't want to go to college at all and want to pursue a trade? Supporting your kid in their chosen field is not "indulgent permissive parenting," it's supporting your kid.

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Omegalazarus t1_j46rc5x wrote

Your point about pursuing a trade or other technical is good, but I think you're giving not enough credit to normal colleges.

Elon musk has an arts degree. I'm not using his name as some sort of "he's a genius". I'm just letting you know that his degree is highly technical, but it's also an arts degree and not a science degree. Technically it has a lot of science base.

When I went to school I got all the way to my last 12 credit hours and I had a choice between chemistry and political science. I chose political science as a bachelor of science degree. I can go to any other school I want to and do a single year come out with a chemistry degree.

A lot of college is what you make it and you can take your core credits any way you want. If you choose to do what I did and take most of your core credits in physics and calculus, then you can come out of it with a very strong basis for a stem degree. If however, you choose to go in and do most of your core credits in literature and history then yeah you're going to have a hard time transitioning to stem after that.

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[deleted] t1_j41f53x wrote

> What other school does that?

I've worked in higher ed for 22 years for 3 reasons. 1). Pension 2) Stability 3) full tuition for my 3 kids and wife. I'm a lowly peon locked away in a closet that no one ever sees. Most higher ed has tuition waivers for staff, spouse and dependents.

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AFatz t1_j42e0nu wrote

As a descendant of slavery, I'm more offended that you think I'd be offended by the term "field work".

You're kinda outing your way of thinking by doing this without even being asked to.

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Chariots487 t1_j43gnld wrote

Oh, but don't you know? You have the emotional stability of a small child, and you just can't handle words that could literally at all be tied to anything bad that ever happened to people who looked like you hundreds of years ago. This is why white people need to start moral crusades to get people to not say "Pokemon master" because it'll offend you!(yes, that's a real thing I saw once)

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twotonekevin t1_j44o53q wrote

It does feel like some mental gymnastics. I always understood field work as work in the speciality that you’re studying. Never thought of it in the vein these people seem to be thinking about it.

Homonyms are a thing and “field” is one of them.

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michaltee t1_j44mjx0 wrote

Right? It’s just posturing to make themselves look like they give a fuck about current issues when this likely does nothing for the black community, and the black community was likely not even asked their opinion on this.

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caelthel-the-elf t1_j4j3w4c wrote

It's funny because the two official definitions / etymology of the term field work has 100% nothing to do with slavery. They were coined in the 17th & 18th centuries. Are the descendants of serfs and European peasants offended too? Lol

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BouNcYToufU t1_j41c0i4 wrote

during my job interview with USC, an admin said she felt it was wrong that I described myself as a Southeast Asian because I am "Chinese." She felt many Asian American "abuse" the label of SEA to get more diversity points and she wondered how I would address that if confronted by a student from SEA.

I'm not American. I'm from Malaysia.

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mighty-mango t1_j42u4wp wrote

This EXACT thing has happened to me. I’m tribal Kadazan (Malay)

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EvilRayquaza t1_j3zfnhb wrote

Did they ask a sizable amount of the descendants of slavery? A quick glance through the article, I am gonna guess they did not. Oof

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TAG_8-5 t1_j3zk52n wrote

"There must be hurt feelings somewhere...and we're going to find them!"

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MarionberryShot6480 t1_j3zjkjf wrote

Ummm what are we calling working in the field now?

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hot4you11 t1_j41b5af wrote

practicum. Which I’ve heard before…

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Tuga_Lissabon t1_j40mkt9 wrote

Did anybody ask them?

What's with the preemptive changing, its not even fear, its like "let me get a few public virtue points".

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Hackpanther t1_j3zk9fp wrote

I find it offensive that anyone would be offended by me saying this isn’t offensive when I myself am offended by offensive things like this but this kind of offends me by being called offensive.

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ipadminihalf t1_j40ey14 wrote

“Southern” is also a racist word. They need to change the name of the school.

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override367 t1_j41nuav wrote

People...still...work in fields...and did so long before slavery

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RN-Lawyer t1_j41jrdb wrote

A solution to an invented problem.

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OneHundredEighty180 t1_j3zz06m wrote

Oh boy.

Wait until they hear about subjects and professions being referred to by the synonym "fields".

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planetpuddingbrains t1_j3zxhw1 wrote

Justin Fields, QB of the Chicago Bears, must also change his last name. I suggest tractsofland.

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bobby11c t1_j405h69 wrote

So, I don't know if this is a positive step or not. And this has no effect on me whatsoever. But I am 50 years old. If I'm lucky to reach the national life expectancy, I have 25 years left. Can I opt out of all these language changes. Especially the stupid ones like this. I have been a good person in my life. Can I please just stick with field work without being call non-inclusive?

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Brewing_Tea t1_j41fow2 wrote

>Can I opt out of all these language changes.

Yes, you can be the grandparent still using the N word. Lots of people do that.

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Mobely t1_j418j0c wrote

Oh no, my life is over.

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freddy_guy t1_j41e5qs wrote

It's always funny to see people complaining about other people being offended by words, when they themselves are offended by someone using or not using certain words.

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Ruthless4u t1_j42hge6 wrote

Here’s the funny part.

Only the individual can choose to be offended by what is said or written.

Any word can be offensive if a person wants it to be. It all rest on the mental maturity of the person.

It’s all meant to elicit a negative response. Only the individual can decide to respond in a negative way.

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eliphanta t1_j42ropd wrote

Because no other race has worked in a field before, and black people have never worked in a field under any other condition than American slavery

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User_Anon_0001 t1_j43a571 wrote

This type of behavior just empowers racism and big scary words. Utterly ridiculous

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NotStaggy t1_j3zhog5 wrote

Bruh the caption on the first image! What is goin on at this school? University of Southern California in Los Angeles. Most fraternities at the university will be allowed to start having parties again in March 2022, if security guards are posted at stairs or hallways leading to bedrooms. (AP Photo/Reed Saxon, File)

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thirdeyefish t1_j3zrs62 wrote

That's definitely the more important thing and we should focus on that word./s

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Retroidhooman t1_j436n5a wrote

All these leftist academic types are just exposing their own subconscious racism when they admit that words like 'field' and others they want banned make them think about black people.

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rourobouros t1_j3zlxjw wrote

Someone's angling for a promotion.

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ImmediatelyOcelot t1_j40yva8 wrote

Everyday Universities make a huge effort to head into irrelevance. Decentralized open-source knowledge will give the power back to people.

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Cassius_Rex t1_j40ztme wrote

TIL I am a 'Descendant of Slavery'. And here was thinking a came from 'people'.

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Brewing_Tea t1_j41er77 wrote

Organization changes what they call something

HILARIOUS

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Argikeraunos t1_j42ognp wrote

Considering that "field work" in social work school is just a name for the unpaid full time job that you have to work while also taking classes, maybe the name isn't the biggest issue.

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Hydroquake_Vortex t1_j44dp4v wrote

What about farmers that get paid to work in fields?

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deck_hand t1_j41e7se wrote

I am a "descendent of slavery," although I'd be ridiculed if I tried to describe myself as one. Also, every person in my father's family history, at least as far as I've been able to trace, has been impoverished. I have an uncle who's done okay, and my mother's side of the family was middle class (certainly not wealthy).

But, I am Caucasian, so all I get is blame for things I had nothing to do with. Our society needs to figure out how to move past things that people who have been dead for hundreds of years did to each other.

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Brewing_Tea t1_j41g7g3 wrote

Keep in mind that USC's actions don't affect you in any way. USC is spelled differently than "society" or whoever would ridicule you, so you can tell they're different.

I'm sorry you're poor and hang out with assholes. Seems like you could fix at least one of those things easily, but I'm not sure USC would be involved.

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deck_hand t1_j41i1xs wrote

Oh, I'm not poor. I escaped the poverty of my father's family, by ignoring his wishes and joining the military, then using the GI bill to help me get a college degree. I've worked in a decently paying job for the last 40 years, while he could not keep a job due to alcoholism, prison, being a felon, and being a delusional asshole.

But, we weren't talking about me, per se. We were talking about the idea that a Caucasian isn't allowed to gain any sympathy for being a "Descendent of Slavery" even if we were. It's a system of double standards that spans more than just the USC - it's become pervasive across the US, Canada, Europe, etc. Because "white people" have not been universally poor for the last 500 years, we're the evil ones and must therefore now be punished.

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burn-it-all- t1_j422nil wrote

At this point when people say something is 'offensive' my natural reaction is to immediately dismiss them and put them in a bucket with the crazies.

This is unfortunate because there are actual things in the world that are offensive. On more than one occasion, I've found myself defending actual offensive words and actions because I am so used to crap like this and had to walk it back.

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AtuinTurtle t1_j43tam9 wrote

I’m pretty far to the left but this is idiotic.

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Omegalazarus t1_j441ver wrote

I can't wait till they look into their auto mechanics program and realize that brakes have a master cylinder and slave cylinders.

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felixlightner t1_j44b2oo wrote

There are people actually getting paid to think up and enforce policies like this. Meanwhile, more than half (54%) of Americans between the ages of 16 and 74 read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level. Virtue signalling is more fun than working to solve difficult problems.

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suprisecameo t1_j468pqw wrote

I'm a social worker and this is just stupid.

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phboss t1_j50dbuu wrote

I guess my "cotton" clothing will be the next casualty.

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MrNothingmann t1_j40rsl4 wrote

Now I see why my wife find house work so offensive.

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