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Kw5kvb5ebis OP t1_j060shg wrote
> Officer Matthew Luckhurst's rehiring was the centerpiece of an investigation into Texas' lax and fragmented oversight of police licensing.
> Matthew Luckhurst, the now-former San Antonio police officer who drew international outrage for trying to give a sandwich filled with dog shit to a homeless man, is once again working as a cop, the Express-News reports.
> In an investigation looking at how lax and fragmented state oversight enables problem police officers to seek jobs with other departments, the daily revealed that Luckhurst was hired as a reserve officer on the Floresville Police Department five months after he was last terminated from SAPD.
> It's unclear how Luckhurst's current job duties differ from those of regular cops in Floresville, a town 30 minutes southeast of San Antonio, since neither the department nor the officer himself responded to the paper's inquiries.
> Even so, a position as a reserve cop in Texas allows Luckhurst the "same legal authority as any law enforcement officer," according to the Express-News.
> In case anyone needs a refresher, Luckhurst drew international headlines after he gave a homeless man the feces sandwich. SAPD fired Luckhurst, then a bike officer, over the incident. However, a third-party arbitrator returned him to the force three years later.
> Luckhurst was terminated a second time after a separate investigation found that he left an unflushed turd in a women's restroom at a downtown police station and smeared a brown substance on the the toilet seat after a female officer requested that staff keep the restroom clean.
> In 2020, an arbitrator upheld the second firing. Even so, the incidents were an embarrassment for SAPD and bolstered activists' demands that San Antonio revise its police contract to give arbitrators less power — something city council ultimately did.
> By some estimates, two-thirds of fired SA cops were allowed to return to their jobs under the old union contract's arbitration clause.
> The Express-News' investigation of fired officers' ability to find new work in other cities draws heavily on a recent study by Texas' Sunset Advisory Commission. The commission examined the effectiveness of the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement, the agency that oversees licensing of police and jailers.
> “The state’s regulation of law enforcement personnel and agencies is, by and large, toothless,” the Sunset Advisory Commission concluded.
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Snl1738 t1_j063x57 wrote
Cops are treated with kid gloves in this country.
EDIT: kid, not kiddy
swisscriss t1_j068d6c wrote
Look its not like we haven't all thought about it. Some people are just brave enough to live their dreams
Deyln t1_j069p07 wrote
Our afternoon shift manager writes novels at work; it so I've been told.
Moosetappropriate t1_j06bdgh wrote
As it has been in America for a long time. Fuck up as a cop, move one town over a get a handshake and promotion.
gumiho-9th-tail t1_j06bymt wrote
Isn't playing with faeces a good reason to get submitted?
No_Carpet7125 t1_j06e4r2 wrote
Officer Frank Reynolds, reporting for doodie.
Diligent_Ad2489 t1_j06hpem wrote
Well ain't this guy a shit sandwich
Central_Control t1_j06lh5r wrote
It never stops until you create a national registry of bad cops that are permanently ineligible for police duty. This will continue for many generations otherwise.
HugeHans t1_j06ozwl wrote
That sounds like a good idea but I don't know how it would have prevented this case when they could have gotten the relevant info by googling their name. Lack of knowledge doesn't seem to be the main issue here.
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HornyToad1984 t1_j06rnf8 wrote
Literally no oversight, accountability, or background checks. This guy should never work in the public section again. Permanent red flag.
HornyToad1984 t1_j06rruj wrote
Kid gloves. As in the soft, delicate hide of a young goat.
Matthew_C1314 t1_j06tnj9 wrote
The crazy thing, is I don't see a way out of these situations. Cops hold all of the power in the union. When it comes time for a new contract you aren't going to be able to be rid of these clauses, because no city is going to risk a police strike. If you want to be more infuriated, google "Law Enforcement Officer Bill of Rights".
curious_dead t1_j070xv7 wrote
This guy's a cop and he's still in his anal phase. I'd call him an asshole, but I'm afraid it would arouse him.
Remote-District-9255 t1_j071w5z wrote
The guy from In the line of fire ?
obsertaries t1_j079nc6 wrote
The way I see it, America doesn’t have “the police”, it has 17,000 different police organizations that all have their own standards and don’t necessarily communicate with each other at all. To many people this is a feature, not a bug, as they want local standards over stuff like policing and not national standards.
timojenbin t1_j07aqid wrote
Do what Reagan did, fire the cops.
No_Carpet7125 t1_j07bnwi wrote
The guy from Rambo: First Blood
mechmind t1_j07f51w wrote
We all have crazy thoughts. It's when you consider acting on these insane ideas that the problem rears is head. If you actually go through with it and "live your dream", As you put it, then that's punishable. And when you joke about it online is pretty alarming as well.
protostar777 t1_j07fd6k wrote
I have never once thought about shitting in a sandwich or smearing shit on the walls
OniExpress t1_j07gwxp wrote
Because it shouldn't be an option for them to hire him. Get on the list, and you shouldn't be able to be at all involved with cops.
sentient_lamp_shade t1_j07h3rn wrote
Forget being a cop, how many more red flags does this guy need to give us? He shouldn’t lawfully possess anything more dangerous than a weed trimmer.
Matthew_C1314 t1_j07hvey wrote
Reagan had legal authority, because they were federal employees. That was a clause in their contract. Also, there was an alternative. You can't deploy the military to police cities, it's actually a law called "Posse Comitatus Act".
sexybimbogf t1_j07ibyw wrote
most compassionate police officer
Mike7676 t1_j07jftj wrote
Yet the Teacher's Union in this state is so laughable it may as well not exist for all the advantages it gives.
Mike7676 t1_j07k6qt wrote
And more factions within those organizations. I have cop friends in the SAPD and wouldn't want to paint them with the same douchebag brush as Officer Fuckhead up there but...you wear the same uniform you are going to be judged the same. I didn't know the jackass's at Abu Ghraib but suddenly the locals were a bit reluctant to talk to us after that horseshit came out.
bountygiver t1_j07kt2q wrote
No there are plenty of them, they just all happen to be the good cops who were trying to call out the inner corruption.
Revolutionary_Ad1451 t1_j07kymx wrote
Homie looks like he would club the buttercream gang.
Matthew_C1314 t1_j07lxf0 wrote
Surprised there even is one.
Mike7676 t1_j07mepf wrote
So is my fiancee who teaches at a private school for a bit LESS a year just so she feels actually listened to and her lesson plans aren't ridiculed.
TallQueer9 t1_j07mkl8 wrote
Huh? You could you get fired for working another job?
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carpediem6792 t1_j07nsl4 wrote
In a world where they expect 2 weeks notice, so you can train your replacement...
It's not a stretch.
TallQueer9 t1_j07octf wrote
I’m pretty sure that’s against the law is most westernized countries
carpediem6792 t1_j07onii wrote
But not in 1850s Murrrikkka.
Ricksterdinium t1_j07ozoh wrote
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r0botdevil t1_j07qer9 wrote
You don't have to worry about finding a cop. If you're in one of the 49 out of 50 US states that have at-will employment laws, you're free to just get up and walk out of your job any time you want.
Your employer could try calling the police to stop you, but they'd get laughed at and then ignored.
The expectation of two weeks notice to quit your job is simply a standard courtesy, and you have no obligation to provide it if you're not planning on asking them for anything in the future.
HarryHacker42 t1_j07r1hf wrote
Like a Parallelogram!!!
Graham146690 t1_j07r5dc wrote
In the UK, it is illegal for the police to strike, like the military.
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HarryHacker42 t1_j07rqr2 wrote
This new job is 20 miles from his old job. They knew who he was and still hired him. It is really in the same city he was an arrogant asshole in.
ThePizzaNoid t1_j07sgyj wrote
I actually get that reference. Thanks Cinema Snob! lol
KillstardoAbominate t1_j07siw3 wrote
Cops have nothing to do with enforcing employment laws.
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Revolutionary_Ad1451 t1_j07t5lg wrote
Have you seen 3 ninjas?
FireWireBestWire t1_j07ti9u wrote
Cops should have to have a license that is a permanent, publicly searchable record, just like a criminal record or an accident history that cops are involved in altering for other people
Silkygoods t1_j07tzbu wrote
Should have the same system that they use for sex offenders. A registry that's checked when hiring for schools etc. Have something like a law offenders registry, that becomes compulsory to check on each hire.
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mistersmith_22 t1_j07v9rw wrote
I want to hear republicans defend this on the presidential debate stage.
RandyTrevor22321 t1_j07vrvq wrote
It's not the first time he's confused his life with the life of Jon Rambo.
Express-Accountant75 t1_j07wdnp wrote
Dude got the Aphex twin face lol
TheMexicanKramer t1_j07yev3 wrote
What field do you work in?
obsertaries t1_j07yy5c wrote
Yeah, a complete lack of consistency or shared standards. In a sense, that’s the “system” of policing in America.
plopseven t1_j07zemi wrote
They protect their own and wonder why people hate them.
ThePizzaNoid t1_j07zqpo wrote
I have not.
Revolutionary_Ad1451 t1_j07zztq wrote
Ok that’s going to be something that is epic and would improve your whole holiday season.
zerostar83 t1_j0800of wrote
Depends on whether you're "working from home" for one and actually working the other one.
Rainbowls t1_j081pa7 wrote
Do you know how much damage you can do with a solid log of poo and a weed trimmer?!
SANTOSHiHoHiHoHiHo t1_j081soi wrote
Dude looks like a clean cut version of The Nightstalker Richard Ramirez.
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chuckles65 t1_j0832fh wrote
There are state standards, each state has a governing body that certifies law enforcement officers. It is possible to lose your certification, but how that happens varies from state to state.
chuckles65 t1_j083c9q wrote
They do. Every state has a governing body that certifies law enforcement officers and you can look them up if you want to.
NarrowSalvo t1_j083g9e wrote
Lots of problems here. Aside from the obvious.
Arbitration system is broken. And it always will be. Prospective arbitrators want to be desirable to both sides. So if the PD only fires people for good cause, the arbitrators will still want to reinstate half of them even if none are worthy of it.
swisscriss t1_j083q9e wrote
oh really? alarming is it? don't you have any pearls to clutch?
Bucktoothbooks t1_j084zni wrote
I think we found his kink
Crow-Caw t1_j085o1n wrote
Working the second job during his first jobs shift? Or a night job?
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mechmind t1_j087z6d wrote
I understand the implication. You think I'm being overly sensitive, correct? , so you don't think it's a warning sign when a grown man acts like this?
rustybike_too t1_j0883q7 wrote
I'm sure his new boss thinks what he did was hilarious.
aidan8et t1_j088cxf wrote
> In case anyone needs a refresher, Luckhurst drew international headlines after he gave a homeless man the feces sandwich. SAPD fired Luckhurst, then a bike officer, over the incident. However, a third-party arbitrator returned him to the force three years later.
> Luckhurst was terminated a second time after a separate investigation found that he left an unflushed turd in a women's restroom at a downtown police station and smeared a brown substance on the the toilet seat after a female officer requested that staff keep the restroom clean.
> In 2020, an arbitrator upheld the second firing.
So trying to feed someone literal shit is ok with an arbitrator, but terrible toilet etiquette is too far. Good to know, Texas. Good to know...
Can we just let them secede already? Please? They already have their own power grid...
AllChem_NoEcon t1_j089222 wrote
The infrastructure to do so is either present or absent at the state's populace's behest. The people in that state, other than some fraction of them for ~15 minutes one day, are totally fine with this state of events.
bootynasty t1_j0899k6 wrote
Huh, thanks. TIL.
tyco_brahe t1_j089hjt wrote
I still think of the chubby one rolling down the hill with cabbages from time to time. It does make me smile.
GravitySucks78 t1_j089u8h wrote
The courts enforce these types of laws, downside is that it’s up to the individual to try and get their justice.
canman7373 t1_j08adxf wrote
In Canada you are obligated b contract at most jobs to give 2 weeks notice, if you do not they can sue you for damages. So say you are in construction and because you quit early the project fell 2 days behind, now they are 2 days late starting the next job, can sue for for the lost income in that 2 days difference, etc...
obsertaries t1_j08amhz wrote
I didn’t know that. Why haven’t I ever heard of a state de-certifying a police department, in spite of (gestures at everything)?
canman7373 t1_j08amvc wrote
You have no idea how the legal system works do you?
sagittariisXII t1_j08awen wrote
>he's still in his anal phase
Too bad he's not in prison, he'd love it
GroinShotz t1_j08b5oe wrote
I'm no doctor... But eating shit isn't good for you right? Like toxic and might kill you? So this guy tried to poison someone... Sounds pretty criminal to me. Why isn't he in jail? (Rhetorical question, as I know Cops are above the law in the US)
Pansie_Schioler t1_j08b6ru wrote
Can't let the serfs get too comfortable. Oh who am I kidding, I get less days off than medieval serfs.
lunelily t1_j08bnqo wrote
If you genuinely consider “I should give a homeless man a sandwich containing feces” to be a “dream” that you can be “brave enough” to act out—rather than an “intrusive thought” that you know better than to ever act on, because it’s abhorrent—then I deeply pity you.
Society would be so much better off if people like this asshole never stepped outside their home, much less held positions of power.
Plisken999 t1_j08bqp9 wrote
I'd never want a public job ever if I got caught doing this...
He shouldn't be a cop
ChugstheBeer t1_j08chll wrote
He should have been arrested
Hayden_Zammit t1_j08ctsa wrote
Tell me you don't understand the difference between bravery and cowardice without telling me you don't know the difference between bravery and cowardice lol.
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chuckles65 t1_j08eaz2 wrote
Individual officers are certified not departments. It is public record.
ablondedude t1_j08ei40 wrote
Them: "If you're not making enough then pull up your bootstraps and get a second job!"
Gets a second job
Them: "How dare you take another job while working for us! What if we need to call you in on a random day? Of course we wont give you 40 hours or pay you as a full time worker but don't you dare work anywhere else or you're fired"
ResettisReplicas t1_j08fqsz wrote
Welcome to the American Police, where you get reassigned instead of disciplined.
JDCAce t1_j08g0sj wrote
For anyone else stumbling onto this fact for the first time, check out this Merriam–Webster article on the matter.
sentient_lamp_shade t1_j08g451 wrote
I stand corrected.
POTUSBrown t1_j08gmzj wrote
Sometimes it's a "conflict of interest," you wouldn't be allowed to work at Walmart and Target, because they're competitors. Most employers will allow multiple jobs, as long as it's is approved, no conflicting interest, or conflicting scheduling.
swisscriss t1_j08iw1u wrote
That is just projection, first of all I am not a man.Secondly a proud filipina woman doesn't succumb to didactic questioning so easily
mechmind t1_j08kaqh wrote
I'm sorry for the confusion. I was talking about Officer Matthew Luckhurst, who is clearly a man.
LetMePushTheButton t1_j08lx1v wrote
But not if your CEO
el_kowshka_es_diablo t1_j08mff0 wrote
Several comments saying he should be arrested…I agree. But more so, I think he needs the brakes beat off of him. Fuck this pos
orangeman10987 t1_j08ohaa wrote
Depends how long you've worked there, as the gap in work history could be difficult to explain, but you could just leave them off your resume.
How would your next employer know to call them?
Sinicalkush t1_j08oxin wrote
Careful what you say. CC will get you.
No_North_8522 t1_j08swj6 wrote
Ever heard of the department of labour? They enforce employment law.
LlamaLlumps t1_j08ta84 wrote
ialsohaveadobro t1_j08tl78 wrote
You're looking for freedom from consequences, then.
And, unless there's something going on that you didn't mention, you're probably overestimating how far anyone would go out of their way to interfere with your job prospects.
OtterProper t1_j08to2e wrote
They're gonna talk shit anyhow. Fuck 'em.
ialsohaveadobro t1_j08trsn wrote
It's civilly enforced (you sue).
swisscriss t1_j08vm6x wrote
How could you possibly know that?
CreamyNailClippings t1_j08vrx2 wrote
His nickname around the office is definitely shit sandwich
Lemkis t1_j08vuzg wrote
Uhhh, you claim to be a man in other comments. Bad troll, F- for your crap-tastic "effort".
Chardradio t1_j08x2sc wrote
Two word review - shit sandwich.
mechmind t1_j08yebj wrote
I guess you're right. I should have known u/swisscriss would be there to add a health dose of skepticism! You put things in perspective, and I thank you for that!
dynex811 t1_j08yjwe wrote
So just declare martial law, deploy soldiers and then everything is fixed! Wait...
Schapsouille t1_j093f33 wrote
Or brand them on the forehead for everyone to see.
Bigoted_hateful_man t1_j096hmq wrote
How did you figure that from his comment?
Kastro2323 t1_j09e23e wrote
Any POS can get a badge and a gun…. Or a collar.
Fuckedby2FA t1_j09m4fm wrote
"You don't know about jail? You'd love jail Oscar"
Orcabandana t1_j09ol3p wrote
I've argued with that one before. He's not Filipino. He doesn't understand a lick of Filipino and is actually insane. Just look at his recent comments.
mechmind t1_j09qrlh wrote
Thanks, took me a few replies to come to that conclusion.!
utegardloki t1_j09ryqp wrote
America, yo. Capitalism is King.
utegardloki t1_j09sbyp wrote
You're not too familiar with cops, are you?
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jimdotcom413 t1_j09wmem wrote
Man I wish I had the money and time to make an independent list of every offending officer that gets shuffled around like a pedophile priest.
Potato_Productions_ t1_j09xbs7 wrote
Literally just what happens every single time a cop gets fired for doing something heinous
swisscriss t1_j09ymk7 wrote
What are trying to say here? that I'm not a real woman?
1573594268 t1_j09zy0a wrote
Yeah, I've had people quit without notice.
I'm just like "Okay, that didn't work out. Moving on ..."
If someone doesn't want to work for me then it's better for both of us to just move on.
Only once did another business call me about a former employee that I had a negative experience with. Said employee was fired for theft.
No idea why they listed us as a reference or how the new employer found out about the work history, but I just confirmed "Yes, XYZ worked for us."
AFAIK as an employer I can actually risk trouble if I say too much about a former employee, so I just follow the "If you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything" rule.
The other employers get it. "No comment" means "don't hire". No specifics necessary...
No good business is petty enough to bother with such nonsense.
I'm sure some businesses are petty enough to go out of their way to harass former employees, but workers should endeavor to refrain from applying to said businesses whenever possible.
(Easier said than done, I know)
Sucks that you can't always tell at first if it's a shifty business or not when applying.
Fly_onthewindscreen t1_j0a02by wrote
I'm not sure what the circumstances of that person are because I'm not OP. But if you are below 18, your employer can fire you for working another job. This is because there are laws restricting the hours an underage person can work (it varies from state to state). And since the employer is not going to coordinate the number of hours you work with your other employer, if they find out you have another job they'll just fire you instead.
SickofTexas t1_j0a0j7c wrote
Underrated comment
1573594268 t1_j0a1n4x wrote
Playing devil's advocate; I would say that it's fair to admit that the current legal system is pretty convoluted. I doubt the average person has more than a surface level understanding of it.
TallQueer9 t1_j0a1v88 wrote
State to state where?? What country?
Theletterkay t1_j0a5ieh wrote
Hard to keave anything off the resume these days when even the most basic intro level jobs want you to have verifiable experience.
SatiricalComment t1_j0a7ohq wrote
It’s like the whales at sea world
ImAnonymoose t1_j0a9c3b wrote
Well that’s some bull shit then. i’m a software engineer and it’s surprisingly not all that uncommon to find people holding two full time jobs and half-assing one or both of them. That’s where my mind first went but someone should be able to have a second job after hours if they want.
edit: spelling
armchairwarrior69 t1_j0a9rle wrote
What PD?
therealgunsquad t1_j0arphv wrote
I've worked multiple part-time jobs for family owned businesses that had a strict rule against hiring you if you worked or planned to work another job (I don't even know if these questions are legal for them to ask). I've always liked working two part time jobs over one full time job. I never had to worry about getting fired or one of the businesses closing because I would still have another income. Plus, if I needed I could just ask the other job for full-time hours.
I've always been a good worker and never call in, and always pick up sick co-workers shifts. I've never been fired from a job either, but I still don't like the feeling of having my entire livelihood and income tied to one person. It's also way more stressful to have to find a new job if you only had one to start. Working two jobs also let's you take a longer time to hunt for a new second job instead of feeling pressured to take the first offer you get.
I know people who hate working two jobs and would rather work one job and get full-time benefits, but I also think working two jobs shouldn't always be thought of as a bad thing.
RoastedRhino t1_j0aslim wrote
I assume that you would walk out without notice only because you have accepted a job offer somewhere else, not to go sit on the couch.
lddn t1_j0aw2vg wrote
Please don't put me in the white-collar resort prison, I want that federal pound me in the ass prison.
jjj1986jjj t1_j0bdvdo wrote
A RESERVE police officer is someone who wants to keep his license active, and can do side jobs security for business and construction site, Floresville and Windcrest city police chiefs have been known to do this for officers in order to allow them to get outside jobs in uniform earning $40-$80 per hour in what would be side gigs for active police offices and sheriff staff.
I personally know many officers who work lucrative contracts with security companies are reserve officers in either one of those two cities, the assumption is that chief isn’t paying them and doesn’t have to worry about his payroll of city approval of his new police reserve staff, many suspect there is cash exchange for those favors between all those reserve officers and Police chiefs who hire them.
floofnstuff t1_j0c0ryo wrote
I’m pretty sure this happens in other states- the policeman gets put on administrative leave and quietly gets transferred to another place somewhere typically small where people are unlikely to recognize their name.
canman7373 t1_j0cxa1w wrote
Most people should. Know tou do not call 911 over stuff like this
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