The deal was made in 2010 and it was a shit show since then and yet, only a week before the games are about to kick off, it became a tidal wave if a shit show and FIFA should be "thanked"?

What a stupid assertion.

I'm wondering when the investigation into bribery will commence?

Infantibo sounds like a bambino crying wolf. He’s a pos and a disgrace to humanity. This country should never have been given the tournament. Doesn’t matter how long ago the decision was made

That guy has access to some top of the range drugs.

It's already commenced. Blatt admitted to taking bribes and a few others joined him. Fifa won't admit it although individuals will

Last Week Tonight did an episode on this years ago. Journalists and reporters were trying to bring all of this to light for years. Heck, even the recent beer 'controversey' was covered because FIFA does it every damn time. FIFA should realistically be disbanded and reconstructed from the ground up, because it is remarkably and openly corrupt

He literally has " Infant" in his name.

He's not wrong, but Western Europe, not to mention the US that achieved its position by hundreds of years of genocide and exploitation of slave power are not ready for this conversation.

Gianni Infantino: human embodiment of whataboutism.

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How long should the US apologize?

How is Gianni not ousted for corruption like Blatter was? How is this feuded man still involved in FIFA?

Unlike Qatar that never had slavery lol.

Thr United States for its wars, coups, economic chokehold of the world and deliberate destabilisation, murder and torture of people and nations for the last 100 years. Hope countries boycott the next world cup too

Well at least you can get a beer after a game.

So, to make up for the transgressions of our ancestors (as a collective), current generations should continue to endorse slave labor and human rights violations?

You enjoy the benefits of "transgressions of your ancestors" every day, you shouldn't run away from responsiblity for its consequences.

This is basically what redditors do with the US anytime a non-US country is talked about for something bad

In what world is not wanting to support ongoing slavery "running away the from responsibility of its consequences"? That's like, people confronting that shit. You know? The straight up opposite of running away?

You're confronting someone who does 0,000001% of horrific shit that your nation did, start with yourself maybe?

Any bets on whose hand is up whose butt?

This is whataboutism at its best. And that speech he gave was most cringeworthy.

Apologising for the sins of our fathers is a fairly revolting concept. I am not responsible for my father's actions nor those who preceeded him. I would not think to consider nor hold Infantino responsible for the murders of Veltlin, for example.

These deaths happened now and were preventable. There's no point going into the details. They're there and bare.

You know that you can simultaneously try to address historical inequality/grievances in your own country while also protesting the atrocious things that other countries are currently doing, right?

Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

Ok, do you know that the people who decided to go and work in atrocious conditions in Qatar decided to do so because it was attractive, in comparision to what they could expect in their own countries? Why do you think their countries are in such incredibly bad situtation, that people decide to emigrate from them to work in Qatar?

Little Child acts like Little Child

We've been having this conversation for a while, not sure who isn't ready for it.

So because they hoped to make more money for their families back home (which is why most of them are there), they should be allowed to be detained against their will, be unfairly compensated for work, and be subjected to dangerous/deadly working conditions? Oh yeah, that's cool dude.

And for the record, I've been to Qatar and have talked to some of these workers. They make up the vast majority of the population there.

I can tell you that none of them liked the fact that their employers were allowed to confiscate their visas and hold them, or bar them from trying to find employment with someone else.

I was there when that earthquake hit Nepal a number of years ago, and I ended up loaning out my phone so some of the Nepali workers could check on their families. One of them told me that was the first time he'd heard their voices in years.

Does that sound like living/working conditions that we should be supporting?

(Looks up congo slave trade)

No. What I mean is the fact that the modern Western civilization is responsible for the horrible conditions present in the countries where modern slave labor comes from, and collectively, as society who benefited from horrible crimes that those societies were victim to, we do nothing to make up for hundreds of years of injustice and exploitation, we merely protest when someone tries to repeat our "get rich at others' expense" scheme.

Fuck fifa and their stupid fucking tournament. Just ignore that shit and if enough people did, the whole system would collapse. All injustices are happening because people are too busy watching their favorite team on TV while politicians and their rich overlords destroy the world. Obviously it's much more effective to shit talk on some shitty forum, so I'll just shut up now.

until their fans without morals give a shit they wont do anything.

Oh for pete's sake.

I'm always quick to point out the role that western colonization has played upon many countries and its after effects. But if you think that it's the sole cause of the world's problems, or even of the problems in the countries that it has directly touched, then you need to read more history, western or otherwise.

More importantly, if you think that having a troubled history precludes everyone that currently lives in any of those countries from having a voice in the global community, as if it's some sort of deranged penance, then you're being ridiculous.

Like I said, we can denounce bad things while also admitting that our forebears did some fucked up stuff.

^Howaboutno.

Infantino is Qatar's butt kissing ball boy or is that ball kissing butt boy?

His name means Big Baby.

Well, his last name contains the word infant, so I guess that checks out.

They should threaten to sell FIFA to Elon Musk if he doesnt bring back beer.

I am just so, so sorry for what I did 3000 years ago. I'm a different person now.

Both are probably illegal in Qatar

Fuck FIFA.

As long as the West won't collectively, in a structured way, compensate for exploiting and destroying whole nations and societies, for hundreds of years of cruelty, for literally inspiring hitler to try to implement the Generalplan Ost by the effectiveness and scale of the American ethnic clensing and enslavement of tens of millions of people - it's nothing but pure hypocrisy.

Looking at the thumbnail pulled from the article, how the heck is this news of any sort, breaking or otherwise?

Boycott the games if you find this offensive.

Does his name mean little baby in Italian? Lol

I think it's the worst crap.

Alright well, I've done a lot of volunteer work for vulnerable communities, and I'm personally in favor of something like reparations since I know that slavery and genocide have generational impacts, but I also don't control the government or what we get to vote on.

So why would I ever feel like I shouldn't be able to condemn Qatar for modern-day slavery?

Because "the West", which is a collection of countries that have historically been at odds with each other until the last 40-50 years, hasn't come together as one group to say that it's sorry? That's ridiculous.

So, that kind of public statement worth about 10 million Euro in his cousin's swiss bank account?

For giving Qatar billions upon billions of dollars for their oil?

Unless you're rich

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The only way to interpret this statement is "your ancestors enslaved people and murdered immigrants in the past, so shut up and let us do the same today."

By the same logic you should condemn and boycott every institution and event organised by UK, the US, Canada, Belgium, France, Germany or The Netherlands. All of those countries are built on blood of slaves, the existence of some of them in a prosperous form is only possible thanks to extermination of the whole populations and ethnicities. None of them, except Germany in the small part, have even tried to reimburse the harm they have done in the last few hundred years. But you can’t do that, that’s where you come from.

Gianni doesn't mean "giant"? Other languages are confusing.