Submitted by patdshaker t3_124igmm in nottheonion
eLishus t1_je0d9ft wrote
Reply to comment by GatoradeNipples in Only Alcohol Free Bar in Dublin Closes its Doors by patdshaker
Possibly, and adding that what makes bars profitable is the incredible markup of alcoholic beverages. A single served drink costs as much as ½ a bottle in many cases. And even normal bars close all the time, especially in this financial environment. Not to mention, I assume they’re serving “mocktails”, of which people will buy (maaaybe two) vs people drinking regular cocktails will have multiple drinks. There needs to be another form of service (i.e., food) or entertainment (i.e., live music) to keep something like this afloat.
Bumish1 t1_je15i04 wrote
That's called a restaurant or a music venue.
eLishus t1_je1kheo wrote
Those all serve alcohol and their main component is food or music, not an accompaniment to socializing (when was the last time you went to a restaurant to socialize with people you didn’t already know?). The concept is a place to gather that doesn’t have the vice of alcohol but still has an element to inspire social interaction. Without the addition of alcohol for entertainment and to loosen inhibitions, bars are generally boring. Something with rotating themes might work well. Open mic nights (poems, comedy, acoustic guitar), food truck Fridays, taco Tuesdays, etc, would add an element besides non-alcoholic beverages. Hell, people might even love a booze free sports “bar”.
limpingdba t1_je1levf wrote
Most/many bars in Dublin sell food and have music. They nearly all serve the same function as somewhere to socialise, have a few drinks, enjoy music and maybe eat some pub grub. They aren't really the distinct activities as you are making out.
Cynykl t1_je3ucj9 wrote
> Open mic nights (poems, comedy, acoustic guitar), food truck Fridays, taco Tuesdays, etc
That is called a coffee shop.
This is a concept trying to fill roles already filled better by other venues.
Breadloafs t1_je1s7g2 wrote
Most craft mocktails these days use non-alcoholic distillates which often cost nearly twice as much as the well liquor even higher end bars will use. We have a couple mocktails at the restaurant bar I work at whose ingredients cost more than most of our house cocktails. They're subject to the same bullshit markup as liquor, but our margins on NA drinks are much lower.
eLishus t1_je29rpt wrote
Yeah I don’t drink booze any more but I bought some of those fake booze things. For one, they’re gross (lol)…but they’re also expensive. And all the added ingredients can add up. So it makes sense that margins are lower, and places like these would have a hard time making ends meet.
Breadloafs t1_je2diqk wrote
Yeah, stuff like Wilderton can be nasty if you drink it neat. I treat them in the same way I treat Saler's or Campari in that they're strictly mixers.
eLishus t1_je3288l wrote
I tried a couple of the Seedlip bottles. I was exited to just mix it with some soda water or other general “mixer” but the suggested ingredients in the menu of mocktails was something only a bartender/mixologist would have. It was gross with lemon infused soda water…or at least not something I would drink without the fun part of alcohol lol
Last-Relationship166 t1_je21lrn wrote
Annnnndddd...not to mention...It's Dublin.
Careless_Relief_1378 t1_je2cpni wrote
You think the mark up on alcohol is absurd but the mark up on mock tails is way way higher.
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