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Hassan_99 t1_jdz4qt9 wrote

Reply to comment by Cmyers1980 in Police chief says exorcism and prayer used to fight crime and cartels in Colombia: "The existence of the devil is certain" by ChocolateTsar

Just go on r/NSFL type in cartel shit and behold the great wonders of our world. Hell is here on Earth. If you’re dealing with that shit on a daily basis you will believe in evil.

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Mod_Accountability t1_je009ok wrote

> If you’re dealing with that shit on a daily basis you will believe in evil.

Only if you're predisposed to believe such nonsense. People who don't allow religion to run their lives are perfectly capable of acknowledging the horrible things people can be capable of.

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Hassan_99 t1_je0lah5 wrote

You missed the point

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Mod_Accountability t1_je3cmjp wrote

No, I didn't. People witnessing horrible things don't have to believe in fantasy in order to handle it.

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Ract0r4561 t1_je0rl04 wrote

No. We’re all animals but have morals due to intelligence and how were raised, and taught what’s wrong and right. The cartel has people who deny the empathy part due to being raised by murderers or experiencing horrible things in their childhood. It fucks up their brains and how they perceive reality. Just like how animals do horrible shit, kinda like how cats play with their victims, they do the same thing. It’s fucked up indeed.

Nothing to do with “hell” or whatever made up shit people made thousands of years ago. It’s easier to control people when you say they’ll go to hell if they don’t do x or etc.

Another reason might be uncontrolled psychopathy or sociopathy. Mental illness doesn’t inherently mean you’ll have the urge to skin people alive. Depending on the environment you’re raised in, you’re most likely to do it. And kids born around cartel are easily persuaded as they’re kids.

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Hassan_99 t1_je0txxs wrote

If we are taught what is right and what is wrong and have morals due to our intelligence, then those people can indeed say what is good and what is evil. look around you evil is everywhere and good is everywhere. Interpret it how you want. Devil vs god, good vs bad. I don’t care. Hell is here on Earth and you know it.

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Ract0r4561 t1_je0ufty wrote

Interesting thought. Isn’t that literally wrong? According to your religious book, which is most likely Quran due to your name. Isn’t hell the farthest place from God, with fire and darkness? So not only you don’t real your own holy book, you’re also ignoring what I literally said before. Way to go.

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Hassan_99 t1_je0ulf2 wrote

Wow didn’t know I was muslim. Way to go champ

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Ract0r4561 t1_je0vhem wrote

Assuming you’re in a different religion that has hell, I don’t think those books say hell is on earth either. And if you don’t believe in any religion, you’re making up your own definition of hell.

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Hassan_99 t1_je0yfer wrote

I’m not religious but I am very interested in religions and superstitions. I 100% agree with your first reply. My point I was trying to make but failed at is this: Hell is here on Earth.

The Holy books state that the devil roams free on earth tormenting people and luring them to do bad things. There are many stories, urban legends, superstities about devils demons etc. Now many people believe it as a entity or being or whatsoever.

I interpret it as an idea. There are moments in life where one has to make a choice or act upon a situation. Those choices or acts can be and will be interpreted as good choices or bad choices by the social construct we live in OR personal preference an individual has.

Lets take this to the cartel example. For the normal human being it is just fucking insane. Some will call it bad, some will call it psychotic and some will call it the Devil’s work.

See where I’m going? There is no right answer. You have to take into account the culture, religions and mindset the people THERE have. Yes ofcourse the murderous cartel are out of their minds and must have multiple sorts of mental issues. But in the eyes of religious people or even spiritual people they are just plain evil.

I have seen too many dark shit in real life but even more on the internet. For me the religious notion of Hell is here on Earth. Many people on Earth have and are suffering on a scale I can’t imagine. And to think the religious notion of Hell is worse ? No I do not think so.

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