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subzero112001 t1_jdyoj4u wrote

You do realize that its the police that handle people breaking the law, right? Lemme break this down for you.

If the church says "This guy has been abusing kids, ARREST HIM!".

The police will ask "Do you have any proof?"

And if the church responds" No, but the......."

Then the police will say"We'll investigate the charges since you have ZERO PROOF".

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Do you understand? How in the world do you not even know how our legal system works?

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HarryHacker42 t1_jdz3ayn wrote

But that's not how it works. What happens is a kid says he's been touched in a way he found odd, and the parents want to know more about it. The church takes over the investigation, looks into it, and finds the priest was probably doing something illegal, again, and tells the kid it was normal and he was wrong, and tell the parents it was nothing, then they ship the priest off to another parish or another country. THAT is what happened. The police weren't called. The person bringing the accusation was told they were wrong and it was just a mistake.

And the church did it THOUSANDS of times, and settled for hundreds of millions of dollars when it caught up to them, but you know what didn't happen? Them turning over all those priests and the evidence they had to the police.

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subzero112001 t1_jdzf8ye wrote

>The church takes over the investigation

What part of "the police are supposed to handle people breaking the law" did you not understand?

It's like no shit if you go to Burger King and tell them "The gas pump station stole my money at Conoco!" they're not gonna do anything about it. Why is this such a hard concept?

You're basing a bunch of your vile on stupid people not reporting something illegal to the ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. It's honestly really weird.

Also, since this apparently has to be said; THE CHURCH DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF ACQUIRING FORENSIC EVIDENCE TO PROVE/DISPROVE ACCUSATIONS. That's what the legal system is for.

The premise of your entire claim is completely flawed in every single way.

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HarryHacker42 t1_je0fhuq wrote

I'm saying it happened ALL the time, which is why the Church paid out millions. The Church should stay the hell out of it. They don't have the ability to investigate, but they did, and then they did the priest. Are you unaware of history? Did you miss the list of payouts the church did for this?

Here is over a decade of payout after payout, over a billion dollars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlements_and_bankruptcies_in_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

Here's a list of priests hidden by the church:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parish_transfers_of_abusive_Catholic_priests

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subzero112001 t1_je35moa wrote

>I'm saying it happened ALL the time

Is due to morons not doing anything right. It has nothing to do with the church. Because the church does not convict criminals. How many times do I have to say that????

>The Church should stay the hell out of it.

If you mean they should stay out of law enforcement, I agree. Because thats what the legal system is for.

>Here is over a decade of payout after payout, over a billion dollars:

And that averages about 8 victims a year. 8 victims out of.... 463,634 per year.

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20there%20are%20463%2C634,year%20in%20the%20United%20States.

The church has ~ 8. Out of 463,634.

Now of course is anything over 0 bad? Absolutely. But you're acting like the church has a monopoly on it. And it's quite obvious that 8 out of 463,634 is nowhere near being a large portion,the main culprit, or even moderately responsible for the majority of those acts.

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