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marrangutang t1_jbt0mi1 wrote

Demolishing without permission is such a naive way of dealing with this sort of situation… round here any historic buildings that are in the way of development mysteriously catch fire

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PeterDTown t1_jbujw74 wrote

Any chance you’re in Toronto? It’s like a bad running joke at this point.

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TheStupendusMan t1_jbv7otn wrote

Just do what Ford did and take all the heritage pages offline! That'll work!

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Kaiserhawk t1_jbt3ex4 wrote

listed buildings are a giant pain in the ass, and the only people who care are fetishists who get off to the idea of "muh heritage" and never actually go and visit the buildings they'll ardently defend online.

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windyorbits t1_jbujn92 wrote

I do agree that these building are a giant pain in the butt but I don’t agree with anything else you said.

Now I’m in the USA, so obviously way different circumstances. But many of the older/protected/historically buildings here fall into this weird catch-22. You can purchase these buildings BUT there are so many rules about what you can and can’t not do is so extensive it becomes nearly impossible to renovate/remodel.

For example, not too far from me is this beautiful historical “mansion” that’s been up for sale for 30 years almost. Buyers come to check it out but once they find out what they can’t do they don’t think it’s worth it. I was able to go inside one time and the 1st and 2nd floor combined have about 15 of these teeny tiny little rooms. Which was normal 100+ years ago but not now. There just enough room for a small bed and that’s it.

Pretty much every buyer is like “no problem, we’ll just knock a few walls down to make bigger rooms” but they cant because it’s historically protected. No insulation, no ac/heating, no washer/dryer hookups and none of that can be added. So it just sits there, decade after decade, falling apart.

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TheManB1992 t1_jbt5weq wrote

We have Grade II listed council estates and high rises. It's a joke.

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