Individual-Schemes t1_j9ehqfx wrote on February 21, 2023 at 9:34 AM

Reply to comment by AdventurerLikeU in Gritting routes are ‘sexist’ says Cambridgeshire highways chief and ‘must change’ by Bald__egg

Do you not know that whole families, who used to go to work and school, were staying home during the pandemic? So rather than using toilet paper at work/school, households were required to have a greater supply. Do you understand that? It has very little to do with what type of genitals you're wiping.

And stop the sexist narrative that women use baby formula. What fucking year do you think this is?

AdventurerLikeU t1_j9eiaux wrote on February 21, 2023 at 9:42 AM

Okay?? That doesn’t really change my point - which was that although obviously everyone uses toilet paper, women use it more. Because, again: men (and boys) don’t tend to use toilet paper for when they pee, just when they poo. Women (and girls) use it for peeing, pooing, vaginal discharge and periods - relevant because (IIRC) girls can get their period as early as around eight (though it’s usually between 12-15).

Also, considering women use the bathroom more frequently than men I still think it’s safe to say people with vaginas use more toilet paper than people with penises. Because, you know. That‘s just how math works.

> stop the sexist narrative that women use formula

I’m guessing you mean “that women use formula more than men”, but that’s not sexist - it’s just plain accurate. It’s not a judgment on how involved dads are - it’s just an acknowledgement of feeding habits as influenced by aspects of society (specifically maternity and paternity leave).

Maternity leave is often longer than paternity leave (if it even exists). So women are by that very fact more likely to be feeding the baby, simply because they spend more time with the baby during that maternity leave. According to the International Labour Organisation, 98 countries meet the ILO standard of at least 14 weeks maternity leave and 107 countries finance maternity leave cash benefits through social security. Compared with paternity leave, which is found in 78 countries, and only five of those countries provide paternity leave for more than two weeks. So of the percentage of babies who receive formula milk alongside or instead of breast milk, there’s a fairly good chance that - at least in a heteronormative household with a father and a mother - the mother is doing more feeding and so using formula more than the father.

Individual-Schemes t1_j9elgoe wrote on February 21, 2023 at 10:27 AM

>Okay?? That doesn’t really change my point

You don't have to change your point. Again: people used more toilet paper during the pandemic because they were home.

Women don't use baby formula.

See how my point didn't change either? You're really going to a lot of effort to argue about something so dumb. You can't just admit that people use toilet paper.

AdventurerLikeU t1_j9g5yf5 wrote on February 21, 2023 at 6:08 PM

I’m not talking specifically about the pandemic or during lockdown - that was someone else. Someone made a comment in response to the pandemic comment that indicated they didn’t believe that women use more toilet paper than men, I added my comment with sources and reasoning saying women do. Then you joined the conversation and totally ignored the direction the talk had gone in - if you wanted to discuss the pandemic specifically, maybe reply to the person who made the comment about the pandemic in the first place? Not to me, when I was discussing toilet paper use based on gender in response to someone else’s comment??

And babies drink formula, but last I checked a two month old infant isn’t getting up and making themselves a bottle. If you couldn’t figure out the meaning “use formula” based on the conversation then I dunno what to tell you. Congrats on being pedantic to the point of derailing a conversation, I guess?