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SilasX t1_j9dq5h1 wrote

Reply to comment by ZhugeSimp in UK tax authority nudges net 'influencers': You may owe us for those OnlyFans feet pics by james8475

“No, that’s evil, when people I like have to deal with the same tax penalties as everyone else!”

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bloodmonarch t1_j9dvbcq wrote

You dont have randoms on the street or your customers reporting you for your tax details though

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SilasX t1_j9dw1eb wrote

Because they don’t observe me making money.

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bloodmonarch t1_j9dwfl5 wrote

?? If you are working somewhere the customer literally sees you making money. Even if you are not customer facing, anyone can literally assume you are earning money at your place of employment.

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SilasX t1_j9dwk92 wrote

Making money in a way that doesn’t automatically get get tracked for taxes then. 🙄

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bloodmonarch t1_j9dwytf wrote

Well yeah, but the point is would you appreviate random people tipping the taxmen randomly in hope of catching you for tax evasion?

Tax evasion is bad, but this feels more like Salem witch hunt to me.

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SilasX t1_j9dy0a6 wrote

No shit nobody likes being investigated for tax evasion! That’s kind of an obvious point to make! But our tax system depends on unreported income getting called out somehow. And like I said in the other comment, if an entire source of income is allegedly not being reported at all, that’s trivial for the IRS to rule out if the person is filing it somehow.

Yes, congrats, welcome to the world of not liking to pay taxes, hope you enjoy your first job!

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bloodmonarch t1_j9dyc8v wrote

Maybe fix your tax system lmao. You paid your tax so that you had to get your fellow citizens to report on each other for tax irregularities.

And plus there's a huge assumption that online personalities aren't paying their taxes which we simply don't know if its true or otherwise.

And lol, i gladly pay my tax since its all automated and hassle free. Pay with just a click on the tax website tyvm.

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SilasX t1_j9dyqgl wrote

No tax system automatically finds all self employment income like camming and collects the expenses for you. Even in countries with user-friendly tax system, there’s some work to do for the taxpayer in those cases. Hence this story about the UK! (Which is one of the user-friendly systems you probably consider fixed!)

It’s completely fair to criticize the US for requiring more scavenger hunt than necessary, but some forms of income inherently require some effort to file and may be missed if not reported by others. Camming self-employment is one of them.

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bloodmonarch t1_j9dzefy wrote

Camming self employment is the easiest one to regulate since there'a only like max 5 of the biggest camsites out there or OF. You just have to force those sites/parent company to automatically link the income to the individuals' tax/income data.

This also works similarly to gig drivers like UBER/GRAB. make it so that the parent company reports the number.

The problem is always that USA is way behind on tax reporting online infrastructure/platform where income data is aggregated.

The kind of self-employment that is difficult to track the total income is that if you are running your own business as an employer, or if you are small-medium sized landlords.

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SilasX t1_j9dzxyl wrote

Then why is the UK behind on it, when it’s a country that normally makes taxes easy? How did this story happen in the first place?

Oh right you just wanted to circlejerk about USA bad, but catching tax cheats is bad too, but only if you like them, and of course the tax system should have been set up to catch them faster 🙄 Ah, mental gymnastics.

Also, not everyone who cams does it through a big central employer/site. But everyone seems to always assume it’s some easily taxable entity like that.

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bloodmonarch t1_j9e3vkj wrote

Well, you WERE talking about the USA earlier. But my point still stand. I am not so sure how easy it was in UK, but i know of indie game dev in German who says its easy to report taxes as independent entity.

You can try to twist the talking point however you want, but this ia a problem you can easily solve if you want to solve it.

Besides small sites does not even generate enough traffics/ revenue/profits on the individual basis to even worth caring about ( i mean if you want to be principled and nickle and dime people for 5 bucks a year, sure??? I guess)

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GrowinStuffAndThings t1_j9fls9i wrote

So you report waitresses every time you see them getting a cash tip? You report someone every time you buy something from craigslist or Facebook marketplace? What about yard sales, you report those if you drive by one? Or do you just think you're being righteous by reporting influencers and only fans models because you have some weird hatred for them? Kind of funny how that works

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imafraidofmuricans t1_j9esbkz wrote

So.. why weren't they mass-reporting crypto bros? A group that make a ton of shady income and famously hates the government and taxes?

Since you so sincerely believe it was done as justice.

Like.. they did it with the express purpose to harass people they hate, entirely based on the assumption that "dumb women" wouldn't understand that you have to declare income. Literally nothing came of it, either, besides some people's lives being made needlessly stressful. Because, surprise, women are perfectly capable of declaring their taxes. Even if they get naked on camera.

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SilasX t1_j9f5sz1 wrote

Yes? Agreed that it's shitty to base your opinion on tax enforcement based on how much you like the target of it. That was my whole point!

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