ZhugeSimp t1_j9d7p9p wrote
I like the US method, where you can report 'influencers' and get part of thier tax-evasion amount as a reward. #thotaudit
Spire_Citron t1_j9dbqtw wrote
Is this in cases where you somehow actually know they're committing tax evasion, or are people just reporting random people under the assumption that they are and hoping to get a payout?
ZhugeSimp t1_j9dcpqu wrote
Probably both? During its popularity instagram 'models' were rage posting on Twitter about being auditted
Vice quickly went to thier defense
Spire_Citron t1_j9dd88c wrote
I mean, it is pretty shitty if you're using it to harass people whose finances you know nothing about, especially in a targeted way just because you have something against them.
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SilasX t1_j9dqcsk wrote
If they’re not cheating on their taxes, it’s pretty easy to rule them out without them knowing. “Oh yep, that’s this person. Oh, yep, self employment income from modeling on their last 1040, probably not hiding anything.”
Zwets t1_j9f12u8 wrote
The thotaudit meme is a joke, you need to actually submit a form of evidence that you actually know details about this person's finances to the IRS, and aren't just wasting their time, for them to investigate someone.
I don't actually know what qualifies as evidence, because that can vary by state. I wonder if images and videos of someone holding stacks of cash or making it rain can count as valid evidence though.
SilasX t1_j9dq5h1 wrote
“No, that’s evil, when people I like have to deal with the same tax penalties as everyone else!”
bloodmonarch t1_j9dvbcq wrote
You dont have randoms on the street or your customers reporting you for your tax details though
SilasX t1_j9dw1eb wrote
Because they don’t observe me making money.
bloodmonarch t1_j9dwfl5 wrote
?? If you are working somewhere the customer literally sees you making money. Even if you are not customer facing, anyone can literally assume you are earning money at your place of employment.
SilasX t1_j9dwk92 wrote
Making money in a way that doesn’t automatically get get tracked for taxes then. 🙄
bloodmonarch t1_j9dwytf wrote
Well yeah, but the point is would you appreviate random people tipping the taxmen randomly in hope of catching you for tax evasion?
Tax evasion is bad, but this feels more like Salem witch hunt to me.
SilasX t1_j9dy0a6 wrote
No shit nobody likes being investigated for tax evasion! That’s kind of an obvious point to make! But our tax system depends on unreported income getting called out somehow. And like I said in the other comment, if an entire source of income is allegedly not being reported at all, that’s trivial for the IRS to rule out if the person is filing it somehow.
Yes, congrats, welcome to the world of not liking to pay taxes, hope you enjoy your first job!
bloodmonarch t1_j9dyc8v wrote
Maybe fix your tax system lmao. You paid your tax so that you had to get your fellow citizens to report on each other for tax irregularities.
And plus there's a huge assumption that online personalities aren't paying their taxes which we simply don't know if its true or otherwise.
And lol, i gladly pay my tax since its all automated and hassle free. Pay with just a click on the tax website tyvm.
SilasX t1_j9dyqgl wrote
No tax system automatically finds all self employment income like camming and collects the expenses for you. Even in countries with user-friendly tax system, there’s some work to do for the taxpayer in those cases. Hence this story about the UK! (Which is one of the user-friendly systems you probably consider fixed!)
It’s completely fair to criticize the US for requiring more scavenger hunt than necessary, but some forms of income inherently require some effort to file and may be missed if not reported by others. Camming self-employment is one of them.
bloodmonarch t1_j9dzefy wrote
Camming self employment is the easiest one to regulate since there'a only like max 5 of the biggest camsites out there or OF. You just have to force those sites/parent company to automatically link the income to the individuals' tax/income data.
This also works similarly to gig drivers like UBER/GRAB. make it so that the parent company reports the number.
The problem is always that USA is way behind on tax reporting online infrastructure/platform where income data is aggregated.
The kind of self-employment that is difficult to track the total income is that if you are running your own business as an employer, or if you are small-medium sized landlords.
SilasX t1_j9dzxyl wrote
Then why is the UK behind on it, when it’s a country that normally makes taxes easy? How did this story happen in the first place?
Oh right you just wanted to circlejerk about USA bad, but catching tax cheats is bad too, but only if you like them, and of course the tax system should have been set up to catch them faster 🙄 Ah, mental gymnastics.
Also, not everyone who cams does it through a big central employer/site. But everyone seems to always assume it’s some easily taxable entity like that.
bloodmonarch t1_j9e3vkj wrote
Well, you WERE talking about the USA earlier. But my point still stand. I am not so sure how easy it was in UK, but i know of indie game dev in German who says its easy to report taxes as independent entity.
You can try to twist the talking point however you want, but this ia a problem you can easily solve if you want to solve it.
Besides small sites does not even generate enough traffics/ revenue/profits on the individual basis to even worth caring about ( i mean if you want to be principled and nickle and dime people for 5 bucks a year, sure??? I guess)
GrowinStuffAndThings t1_j9fls9i wrote
So you report waitresses every time you see them getting a cash tip? You report someone every time you buy something from craigslist or Facebook marketplace? What about yard sales, you report those if you drive by one? Or do you just think you're being righteous by reporting influencers and only fans models because you have some weird hatred for them? Kind of funny how that works
SilasX t1_j9g2uze wrote
See my other replies.
GrowinStuffAndThings t1_j9g4rn5 wrote
Nah, I'm good lol
SilasX t1_j9gaxo0 wrote
Oh yeah I figured you weren’t serious to begin with.
phunkydroid t1_j9fklmr wrote
So every contractor ever?
imafraidofmuricans t1_j9esbkz wrote
So.. why weren't they mass-reporting crypto bros? A group that make a ton of shady income and famously hates the government and taxes?
Since you so sincerely believe it was done as justice.
Like.. they did it with the express purpose to harass people they hate, entirely based on the assumption that "dumb women" wouldn't understand that you have to declare income. Literally nothing came of it, either, besides some people's lives being made needlessly stressful. Because, surprise, women are perfectly capable of declaring their taxes. Even if they get naked on camera.
SilasX t1_j9f5sz1 wrote
Yes? Agreed that it's shitty to base your opinion on tax enforcement based on how much you like the target of it. That was my whole point!
imafraidofmuricans t1_j9ern7i wrote
Why are you going on the base assumption that they don't pay taxes? I mean I know why, "lol dumb women" is the first thought in your head when you wake up every day, but don't you think flooding a government office with thousands of entirely unbased accusations might be a bit fucking stupid?
Watchmaker2112 t1_j9fr2ip wrote
It's amazing that people do this when egirls and dudes mostly don't make all that much money. And I don't get it, yeah we should all pay our taxes but there are way bigger cheats out there than people trying to pay their rent. Some of them do way better but the whole thotaudit thing reeks of bitter virgin energy.
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