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Threedog7 t1_j9uvq60 wrote

Average ethnostate moment

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SpinningHead t1_j9voxsa wrote

If this was r/worldnews you would be banned.

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Threedog7 t1_j9vqqxk wrote

Already got banned there for exactly this

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SpinningHead t1_j9vr507 wrote

Same. They wouldn't even tell me why explicitly. Kinda fucked up that the one world news sub has a single country you cannot criticize.

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Darkality24 t1_j9xkqld wrote

Beyond not criticizing it, if you post links to the official UN human rights councils published opinions about human rights abuses in Israel you can be banned as well.

Literally acknowledging wrong doing is viewed as wrong doing.

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SpinningHead t1_ja8hjnr wrote

I have even posted links to Israeli human rights groups.

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dbx999 t1_j9xw7vy wrote

If you haven’t been banned from r/politics then you weren’t saying anything interesting

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LonelyActor t1_j9z8e3x wrote

Not a single country. Good luck surviving saying anything remotely negative about Ukraine, even if it is in a pro-Ukraine context.

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abruzzo79 t1_j9wfgvb wrote

Surprisingly I haven’t been banned from that sub. I just get downvoted into oblivion there.

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Riisiichan t1_j9ymmsg wrote

I got banned for calling Israel an Apartheid State.

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Noahcarr t1_j9yuswg wrote

What in the fuck are you talking about? What world do you live in where r/worldnews is pro-Israel?

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abruzzo79 t1_j9z0o9k wrote

Every single comment I’ve made in that sub that was critical of Israel has gotten downvoted into oblivion. Very strong pro-Israel and anti-Palestine sentiment there.

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Noahcarr t1_j9z11oa wrote

We’ll I’ve been banned from r/worldnews multiple times for pro-Israel comments, so maybe you just said extra-stupid things

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SpinningHead t1_ja8crr8 wrote

The one where I was banned without explanation after specifically criticizing the far right government there.

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TarryBuckwell t1_j9z8972 wrote

The entire conceit of the victimization is that one group of people has the inalienable right to their own religious ethnostate. Palestinian is not a religion or an ethnicity- there are Jewish, Muslim and Christian Palestinians who have all been equally affected by that conceit. The Temple Mount has always been a shared religious icon. I will never understand the position.

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Threedog7 t1_jaepmjf wrote

They are an ethnicity. And pulling this, "Isrselis can't do anything collectively against Palestinians because they're not a group!" Ain't the argument that makes you look good.

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Murderyoga t1_j9ux6u1 wrote

Outdoorsman

Likes to read

Fun at parties

Victim

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Scrambles420 t1_j9yd1ez wrote

Hey Kyle do you mind?! You’re kind of fucking up my brand!

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Sunshinehaiku t1_j9uxwbb wrote

Could have been simply the word Palestine on a canvas, and somebody would complain.

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Buzzybill t1_j9yo6sg wrote

If you click the link the concern was the art was not from various “children” but from a single adult who had a specific agenda.

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PJJefferson t1_j9y7k4u wrote

Sure, buddy!

I mean, why bother reading the article and finding out what happened, before commenting, lol?

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954bzn t1_ja4azrj wrote

Yes, read an article that’s clearly biased. Very cool.

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PJJefferson t1_ja4b9st wrote

Words are scary!

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954bzn t1_ja4bfri wrote

I read the article. Sources matter. Try harder, dunce.

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PJJefferson t1_ja4ctre wrote

Hmmm…. Continue sitting at the pool on the ocean and enjoying my vacation, or “try harder” to do work for some lazy, obnoxious little stranger on Reddit?

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954bzn t1_ja4czyb wrote

You browse Reddit to defend Israel on vacation? I’m sorry your life is that sad. Sincerely, a guy that lives on the ocean 🫡🇵🇸

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Terrasweat999 t1_j9uw9of wrote

Yeah....can't have anyone except "god's chosen people" being victims.

Especially not the children of Gaza that apartheid Israel treat like animals and force them to live in the largest concentration camp on the planet....

Fuck those patients.

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needaburnerbaby t1_j9waiu4 wrote

Also it’s totally Israel’s fault that Palestinians live in squalor and not their own elected fucking Hamas government right? Yup. All on Israel.

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medfreak t1_j9xbmk8 wrote

It's not like Israel as been electing angels every year. They literally keep electing the most right wing factions possible in their Government. The only difference between Hamas and the far right government that Netanyahu governs is that the latter has nukes and one of the most well armed terrorists on the planet they call the IDF, while the Palestinian terrorists are armed with firecrackers.

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redditsowngod t1_j9z4r8w wrote

You sound like someone trying to use the clothing of a rape victim as justification

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needaburnerbaby t1_ja04odi wrote

Because I expect an elected government to provide for its citizens instead of building bombs and digging tunnels to kill their enemy?? Weird logic but I learned long ago reasoning with people about this topic on Reddit is impossible.

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redditsowngod t1_ja04u9r wrote

And if they can’t provide then the people under said government deserve to be bombed? I’m failing to see your logic.

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needaburnerbaby t1_ja065vl wrote

Yah if you fire missiles at a neighbouring country they are gonna fire back. That part isn’t rocket science. Again. Are you gonna get mad at their own government for not investing in schools, roads, hospitals, irrigations systems, anything. Nope. Instead it’s Israel’s fault. Why? Cause fuck them Jews.

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redditsowngod t1_ja07bym wrote

What a stupid chicken or the egg situation you’ve presented. One side morally deserves to be on that land, and the other is supported by tens of millions in military aid yearly, with a defence system unmatched by most other developed nations. Why are you riding Israel’s dick so hard as if they are a shining example of morality??

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needaburnerbaby t1_ja0s01x wrote

Wtf. I didn’t say anything about morality. Did you read what I wrote or just copy and pasted your replies from other times you complained about Israel?

Also the fact that you hold onto idea that only one side has a moral right to be there is truly illuminating.

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954bzn t1_ja4bcvk wrote

So you think Hamas should attack the people illegally stealing Palestinian land, since that would directly provide for their citizens? If so, I agree.

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needaburnerbaby t1_ja6g4nv wrote

I mean Hamas has proven time and again they don’t need any reasons to attack innocent civilians let alone asshole settlers so not exactly the point you think you’re making here.

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954bzn t1_ja6h2x5 wrote

I mean IDF has proven time and again they don’t need any reasons to attack innocent civilians let alone steal their properties so not exactly the point you think you’re making here.

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needaburnerbaby t1_ja6hyx2 wrote

Lol ok sure. You side with Hamas. I’ll side with the IDF. If you think the IDF is at all in the same universe as the terrorist organization posing as a government known as Hamas then you have deluded yourself to a level that is light years beyond saving.

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Traevia t1_ja54rcy wrote

Well, there is the whole Israeli court decision that said the settlements were illegal and as expected Israel backed off of doing that. Oh wait, the government actually just INCREASED the amount of settlements and encouraged more. They told their own courts to screw off. There are also plenty of videos of Palestinians asking this settlers to get off their land with Israeli citizens saying "don't worry it will be ours soon regardless".

No offense, you don't get to tell someone else how to live as long as it doesn't hurt you. If they want to live on the ground and sleep all day, that is up to them.

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needaburnerbaby t1_ja6fzob wrote

Right up until the moment they stop sleeping all day and instead build and launch missiles at their neighbours….

Again the focus on Israel is hilarious considering the article is about Palestinian artists depictions of a world in which Israel doesn’t exist.

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YellowOnline t1_j9uy811 wrote

>UKLFI: Supporting Israel with legal skills

Sounds like a very impartial website.

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Bitch_Posse t1_j9x3oz6 wrote

The oppressors feel victimized. Whatever.

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dbx999 t1_j9xwa12 wrote

Oppressors always feel victimized

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Bagel-luigi t1_j9y1c2t wrote

Imagine feeling 'victimised' by people your country is actively oppressing

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rubythedog920 t1_j9y3rgk wrote

I’m Jewish and this is dumb.

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sercommander t1_j9zb4te wrote

I'm twice the Jewish you are and this is twice dumb for me!

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brotherenigma t1_j9x9rtz wrote

"Thus the existence of Israel is totally denied and “Palestine” is regarded as covering the entirety of Israel."

Which is true, because "Israel" didn't even EXIST until after WW2.

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flamableozone t1_j9zf3c8 wrote

Germany didn't exist until after the unification of east and west germany, which didn't exist until after WW2, does that mean that "Germany" doesn't exist? The Czech Republic didn't exist until 1992, does that mean that it doesn't exist? The fact that something exists *now* means that it exists now, regardless of whether or not it used to.

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brotherenigma t1_j9zhdes wrote

There's a difference - there is at least a shared ethnic, linguistic, and cultural heritage that connects a lot of those former Germanic kingdoms and princely states. Also, that union, although quite politically charged as well, had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the economy. Many people who had been previously displaced actually got reunited with family across the Wall.

Palestine, on the other hand, has ALWAYS been a religious battleground. Not once in its 2000+ year history has there been peace in the Holy Land. And instead of making it not just a Holy Land in name but also in law where Jews, Christians, AND Muslims could all make a pilgrimage to and find peace in prayer, the British, in their infinite wisdom, chose to make it an EXCLUSIVELY Jewish state with no regard for those who already lived there. There was no question of unification or integration or any of that. Same with Partition in India. It was COMPLETELY arbitrary.

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Rahm89 t1_ja2gasv wrote

And « Palestine » still doesn’t « exist » today. What’s your point?

EDIT: I mean Palestine as an independent State doesn’t exist. As for the Palestinian national identity, it started « existing » around 1964 with the creation of the PLO.

My point is, whether an identity is ancient or recent has no relevance. It either exists or it doesn’t.

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brotherenigma t1_ja3zlcl wrote

My point is, Israel was manufactured from whole cloth as if it was Athena, springing full grown from the forehead of Zeus. Palestine has ALWAYS existed since even before Judaism was a thing - both culturally and ethnically.

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Rahm89 t1_ja4sjot wrote

Are you for real? « Palestine » is the name the Romans gave « Judea » after quelling the Jewish uprising and annexing it. Judaism predates Palestine by a few centuries at the very least. And that’s a conservative estimate.

Not that any of this matters in 2023 to determine rights and wrongs. But confidently spewing nonsense and historical fallacies is not helpful.

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goinmobile2030 t1_j9ybfja wrote

Therefore, the Gazzan children were bombed. Everything is good now.

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TranscoloredSky t1_j9z8qt7 wrote

Please note this is Israel Jewish people specifically and it would be about as misleading as a headline saying Christians are upset that a hospital said Nazis are bad when it's talking about Russian Christians

Them feeling victimized has nothing to do with the fact that they're Jewish and everything to do with the fact that they are Israeli colonizers who want to erase the history of the country they are trying to take over

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flbart t1_ja4oosp wrote

It's not though, this is in the UK and UKLFI never says the people offended were Israeli. They said they filed the complaint "on behalf of some Jewish patients" who felt victimized. UKLFI's complaint specifically says they felt victimized because they are Jewish: "it is offensive for Jewish people to see a Palestinian flag over their holiest site."

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rpgsandarts t1_j9x8dno wrote

Have any of you read the article? They’re all obviously done by one person lol

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Independent_Ad_2073 t1_j9z94dy wrote

Implied, but didn’t give any proof of such and second, so what? Art shouldn’t be put away, just because some people find it offensive.

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PJJefferson t1_ja07x5m wrote

I guarantee I’d find different comments from you online, if the art in question was a statue of a Confederate general, or anti-gay pastor.

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molliem12 t1_j9xvav3 wrote

Boo wha! It’s artwork by children. Grow the fuck up.

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BlerghTheBlergh t1_j9xzrs5 wrote

Man, there’s a lot more to be offended by geez

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cheapb98 t1_j9x9fb4 wrote

Awww! Let's bomb them again then

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Khemith t1_j9wyvfe wrote

Oh noes the inconvenience of genocide!

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Ev1lMush t1_j9xpa9v wrote

Yeah we got some stupid folks living here....

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PJJefferson t1_j9y7eml wrote

“In the display, “Palestine” was described as covering the entirety of Israel and the Temple Mount was depicted with a huge Palestinian Flag. The explanation for one plate says: “Fishing with nets is one of the oldest industries in Palestine. The shoreline stretches for 224 km from Rafah in the south to Ra’as al Naqoura in the North.” Ra’as al Naqoura is the Arabic name for Rosh HaNikra, an international border crossing between Israel and Lebanon in the North. Rafah is the border town with Egypt, in the South of Gaza. Thus the existence of Israel is totally denied and “Palestine” is regarded as covering the entirety of Israel.

Another description of a plate says: “The olive branch is the symbol of peace and is used to express the wish for an independent Palestinian state”. However, the picture on the plate accompanying the text shows the Dome of the Rock with a large Palestinian flag, implying that Jerusalem and in particular the site of what had been the Jewish Temple, would be part of a Palestinian state. The Temple Mount is the holiest place in Judaism and it is offensive for Jewish people to see a Palestinian flag over their holiest site.”

Seems fair the Jewish people were upset.

Also, isn’t there a rule about making up fake headlines?

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flbart t1_ja4rle7 wrote

The Dome of the Rock is in Occupied Palestinian Territory (East Jerusalem) under international law. How is showing a Palestinian flag flying above a mosque used by Palestinians offensive to Jewish people? It's odd that the article is alleges the existence of Israel is denied but then puts Palestine in quotation marks, as though it doesn't exist.

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Dr-P-Ossoff t1_j9ve48q wrote

In 1967 the (very Jewish) Mad magazine made fun of the victim hood politicians on both sides. I wish someone would put the “ersatz Israel” map online.

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RussMantooth t1_j9wukof wrote

Mel Gibson enters the chat

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PenKey3719 t1_j9x4wxa wrote

Why the fuck did anyone think shopping around a collection of plates denying the existence of Israel as 'Crossing Borders' was a good idea?

Like, read the article. This wasn't just some kids artwork, shit was literally Palestinian flags over Jewish holy sites and passive aggressive denial of Judaism.

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Fixed_headlines t1_j9vgogl wrote

Did they have artwork from other disputed territories or just the one dedicated to destroying the only Jewish country?

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RandomComputerFellow t1_j9wkhig wrote

You could ask the same question about every city which has an jewish holocaust memorial. "do they have a memorial for all minorities or just for the one committing genocide on the Palestinian people"

I always find it absurd that especially the Jews which had to suffer under Nazi atrocities do not understand why the dispossession and destruction of an ethnic group is not OK.

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SpinningHead t1_j9vp5q5 wrote

I like that you unironically refer to all Gazzans as wanting to murder all Jews.

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Heijoshinn t1_j9we4px wrote

This guys whole history is suspect. New account, questionable comments, has their own little sub with conflated headlines.

Wait... Wtf... does r/UsernameChecksOut ? Lol

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Darkality24 t1_j9xl6ag wrote

Given that 90% of their comments are about Israel, I'd bet it's an account run by a government propaganda subcontractor.

Just block them.

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djengle2 t1_j9w03dc wrote

Also the ethnostate ideal of being the only Jewish state.

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SpinningHead t1_j9w3lik wrote

Yep. My country has more Jewish people than Israel and many came here because we are not an ethno-state...even though the far right keeps trying to make us one.

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UncookedCapacity t1_j9wrg7o wrote

Redditards explaining how genocide good actually if you get genocided first

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Khemith t1_j9wyqfs wrote

Do you morons still think Jesus is going to come back because you were nice to the Jews?

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