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maybe_Lena t1_j7kreng wrote

Reply to comment by Woodpeckinpah123 in Witch Hunt For Hogwarts Legacy Content Creators Ongoing by windowhihi

Why do you hate trans people?

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Rawesome16 t1_j7kvn23 wrote

Not trans people

Cancel culture people. Big difference

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froggythefish t1_j7ml332 wrote

“Cancel culture” is a word losers made up to try and insult people who boycott bigots.

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Rawesome16 t1_j7mn2rm wrote

I was called all kinds of "ist" names because I didn't like the Star Wars sequels. I thought they were poorly written. But no, I must be a misogynistic racist man.

Cancel culture is the new McCarthy age. Unless causing harm on on others I say do what makes you happy and leave others alone

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froggythefish t1_j7mokg6 wrote

I don’t like any of Star Wars and no one called me a misogynistic racist. Are you sure you aren’t actually a misogynist racist transphobe, and that you’re not just trying to convince yourself you’re not?

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Rawesome16 t1_j7movhl wrote

I like every star wars movie that Disney doesn't have to do with, and one that they do

You not liking any voids your opinion on the new stuff in the minds of those that called those like me such names.

And yes, troll, I'm sure I'm not. And I'm sure you are a troll who I will ignore from here on out

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Solumbran t1_j7kxu3d wrote

I have yet to see someone talking about "cancel culture" who isn't racist, homophobic, transphobic, <insert various discrimination here>

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Calbinan t1_j7l3izw wrote

That person straight up said they don’t have a problem with trans people. Their issue was with cancel culture. How liberally do you want to apply those labels? Because if you throw them around too much, they start to lose their power.

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Solumbran t1_j7ogwlh wrote

And my answer explained quite clearly that I wasn't talking exclusively about transphobic people. If you cared to read what I said you'd have understood that I was saying that the mere concept of "cancel culture" comes from spaces that are heavily associated with various forms of discrimination, and that the only ones believing that kind of cancel culture bullshit are the ones that are already convinced by the rest.

If you talk about cancel culture seriously, I will take you as seriously as if you start talking about Bill Gates making an evil vaccine to solve overpopulation, or about governments controlled by lizards disguised as humans.

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Calbinan t1_j7oikg3 wrote

So, although they may not have a problem with trans people, you believe that one of those other labels must apply to them, just because they mentioned cancel culture? Do I understand you now?

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Rawesome16 t1_j7l9y4j wrote

Well hello, nice to talk to you.

I judge each person I meet based on how they act and behave. Not how they look or who they love.

What I don't like is people canceling others who are not causing them any harm : for example people playing a hogwarts video game.

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Solumbran t1_j7nddge wrote

What you call "cancelling" is just "refusing to support, directly or indirectly, shit people". It does not and can not prevent anyone from talking or doing anything they want,it does not "cancel" anything. Harassment does those things but that's not what it is about here; also,harassment is illegal.

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Pornviewerx1000 t1_j7lf93k wrote

Canceling isn’t a fucking thing. It’s called bad press and if the billionaire doesn’t like it’s not fucking sad

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Rawesome16 t1_j7lfean wrote

How many billionaire streamers are there?

I'll answer for you, smooth brain, there are none.

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Pornviewerx1000 t1_j7lsp80 wrote

And how much do I care if you support some vile shit and in your public facing job you face consequences? Good. Let them go work as a cpa or sell shoes

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Woodpeckinpah123 t1_j7mfpr7 wrote

Replace "Have they streamed THAT wizard game?" with "Have they visited THAT queer positive website?" Still comfortable with it?

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roscid t1_j7mqv4v wrote

No, but what's your point?

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Woodpeckinpah123 t1_j7mw4v9 wrote

So you're ok with bullying so long as the right people are being bullied?

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roscid t1_j7my4mp wrote

I don't equivocate bullying an innocent group of people based on their identity to bullying a group of people based on their words and actions. You can't just swap words around freely like that, because they aren't equivalent. Bigots and fascists deserved to be bullied. Their opinions are not worth hearing out, and they should be socially shunned. So in short, yes, bullying bullies is okay in my book.

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Woodpeckinpah123 t1_j7nevbt wrote

Are they, though? I suspect the vast majority are just people who like gaming or HP or earning a paycheck.

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roscid t1_j7ob8fa wrote

No, wouldn't go so far. I'm sure many of the people buying the game simply just aren't that invested in the larger politics and just see it as any other game. Whether it is wrong to financially support someone who works to actively harm society is, I concede, a moral gray area. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with this site's intention, but I'm mostly indifferent to it personally.

I was moreso just arguing the larger point that just because bullying group X is wrong doesn't mean that group Y doesn't deserve that same treatment. Just because we know we shouldn't harass vulnerable or innocent groups doesn't mean we must extend that same kindness to bigots.

I am less concerned with any individual person's purchasing decision than I am of the words and actions of the figurehead spreading hateful speech in the first place, in this case Rowling herself. Going after the people who play the game isn't something I am personally interested in, but it doesn't mean I have to be outraged that other people do it.

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Woodpeckinpah123 t1_j7pp4vk wrote

"...then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me."-Martin Niemoller

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roscid t1_j7pp8wc wrote

Can you expand on what you mean by that?

I am aware of the context and the origin of the quote, I just don't see how it applies here.

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