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Shamic t1_j7irrs5 wrote

I will never understand banning jokes like that, it's just childish

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shadowromantic t1_j7nhv10 wrote

I can understand bans like this. Kal Penn did a really good job of talking about racist jokes/stereotypes and how they messed with him as a kid.

Then there's the danger that humor is being used as a cover to just say cruel things and to push an oppressive agenda.

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Shamic t1_j82vzsk wrote

yeah but where do you draw the line? It's not actually about racism it's about bullying, and then where exactly do you define bullying? Some people have different tolerances for jokes and conversation. It's stupid to ban words or jokes because it's not a good or bad thing to say, it entirely depends on context, who you are saying it too, and how that person reacts. For sure, some people say cruel things and that shouldn't be encouraged, but you go down that rabbit hole of banning things people find offensive you will never end because there is always someone that gets pissed off by something. Who exactly is going to police it all? It's a dumb, reactionary response to something that could be dealt with differently

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7j5tat wrote

It’s childish, intolerant, and vindictive.

Do you want to know who controls society? Just look at who you can’t tell jokes about.

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AdamDeKing t1_j7k7hzk wrote

disabled children are the real puppet masters

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7koxs0 wrote

Nope. You can make jokes about disabled children without being canceled.

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iRegretLastNight t1_j7jd9ej wrote

I bet you support the book banning in Florida.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7jgf9i wrote

Wrong. I support freedom. I’m a libertarian. I oppose book banning anywhere at any time for any reason, just like I oppose authoritarian societal controls on speech.

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iRegretLastNight t1_j7jghos wrote

Oh, OK. So you are in favour of open borders.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7jgrfc wrote

Nope. If a nation doesn’t control its own borders then it’s no longer a nation. Which is exactly where we are now.

But since we’re playing this stupid game, it’s clear that you’re a Marxist of some variety.

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iRegretLastNight t1_j7jhb7a wrote

Lol. If you don't support open borders, you're not really a libertarian. Restricting freedom of movement is a restriction on personal liberties.

Unless you believe that something as arbitrary as where you were born should define whether or not you deserve freedom.

Also... calling anyone who disagrees with your politics a Marxist even if you don't have any understanding of their ideology at all is extremely stupid. McCarthyism outlived McCarthy by like 75 years.

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pawnman99 t1_j7k6kck wrote

There's a difference between supporting legal immigration, wanting it be faster, easier and cheaper, and not wanting any borders at all.

There's no country in the world that has completely open borders and no immigration controls at all.

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Bunnytown t1_j7kmxut wrote

I mean, there isn't a country in the world that is Libertarian either.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7lbnk8 wrote

There probably won’t ever be one. Far too many people in power are in love with and totally attached to authoritarianism.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7kmcie wrote

That’s complete bullshit. I totally support legal immigration. But, as Nobel laureate economist Milton Friedman said, "It's just obvious you can't have free immigration and a welfare state."

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7knbm2 wrote

No. You suggesting that I support book banning was extremely stupid. Only the naive support both open borders and a welfare state.

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XrosRoadKiller t1_j7j6nz9 wrote

Not true but you probably know that

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7j75h5 wrote

Absolutely true. The people with the power to silence their opposition are the people who control society.

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XrosRoadKiller t1_j7j8m1k wrote

Do you actually think trans and gay people control society?

Some times people aren't in power but simply protected and have no agency or agenda in the response of others.

Your statement is too narrow.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7j9dxe wrote

Fact: when there are jokes you can’t tell and things and words you can’t say then you are being controlled.

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XrosRoadKiller t1_j7j9mcz wrote

Even if I accepted that premise, and I don't, that's not the same thing as the original statement you made.

The phrase sounds deep but only if you look at it with only 2 opposing sides which is a shallow way to consider social interactions to say the least.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7jg7jp wrote

It doesn’t matter if you agree with it or not. It’s still true. There are words we can’t say and things we can’t do and people we can’t make jokes about. We are being controlled for the benefit of others. We are no longer free. And if you want to know who’s controlling us then just look at the people we can’t make jokes about, because they and their allies are now the ones in charge.

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Radiobandit t1_j7ja8lh wrote

So how's that alt-right pipeline been treatin' ya these days?

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7jga9l wrote

I don’t even know anybody on the alt-right. And how typical of a leftist to immediately jump to a personal attack.

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wooden_pipe t1_j7jyrwo wrote

The fact that you wrote this is hilarious given how you are basically arguing pro-offensive jokes and insults / free speech

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7km6dz wrote

The fact that you immediately jumped to a personal insult is far more hilarious.

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Radiobandit t1_j7kxyee wrote

You literally used the same dog whistle argument that argues the existence of an international Jewish conspiracy. Just because you're unaware of its influence doesn't mean you're not affected by it.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7lbd52 wrote

Your post is absolute, complete, 100% bullshit. You should be ashamed of yourself. I’m putting you on ignore.

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pawnman99 t1_j7k6v4h wrote

Yes. This June, take a look at any retail store. Rainbows as far as the eye can see. People get fired for homophobic and transphobic comments... no one will get fired for disparaging cis white men. Companies will get dragged for not having enough gay and trans people, never for having too many.

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XrosRoadKiller t1_j7kudqx wrote

>no one will get fired for disparaging cis white men.

You absolutely can get fired for that. You are too deep into conspiracy land. And the same laws that fire people for homophobic remarks is the same for any race.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7lyqzt wrote

Never seen it or even heard of it.

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XrosRoadKiller t1_j7m6pdd wrote

Well, you are literally one person. Maybe expand your horizons before screaming at the sky that we aren't free

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7m6wol wrote

There are a lot of people who agree with me. They just don’t post here because they think Reddit is a leftist sewer.

And we are not free. JK Rowling was nearly cancelled after just liking a tweet calling trans women “men in dresses.” Actually making that comment here in the alleged land of the free draws immediate punishment and/or cancellation. We are definitely not free.

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pihkal t1_j7k78m3 wrote

Nonsense, the lizard people ruling behind the scenes have never stopped my japes!

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Rad_it t1_j7knbsv wrote

All the people in power are trans?

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Shamic t1_j82w3b3 wrote

lol in a way. maybe not physically in control but the power they wield nowadays over free speech laws and canceling people is pretty large.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7knzmr wrote

The people who are in control of the media and the nation consist of every group that you can no longer make a joke about and their allies. Just ask Dave Chappelle.

If you can’t make a joke about a group without suffering negative consequences, then they are in control and you are being controlled.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7kobab wrote

And those downvotes prove my point. You can’t even talk about the fact that you can’t make jokes about about certain groups without being punished. They are in control.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7lygvc wrote

“Your boos mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer.” - Rick Sanchez

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7kmage wrote

You can’t even make jokes anymore. Ask Dave Chappelle.

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ShitbirdMcDickbird t1_j7l3dxc wrote

Yeah good example of what I'm talking about. Dave hasn't been doing jokes for years, he goes up there and just talks about controversial shit, and takes a stance that upsets people.

He used to make actual jokes about touchy subjects just fine, not sure why he's gone in a different direction.

I'm a huge fan of his too.

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Julioscoundrel t1_j7lb9bw wrote

He learned the hard way that he can’t make jokes about certain groups anymore without being attacked and punished.

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