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madmaxlemons t1_j8yq7dj wrote

The host said fisherman and sam said fisherthem. Complete nothing burger. Saved you a click go do something worthwhile

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Pygmyponymontana t1_j8z5xlz wrote

Mindless bullshit to keep idiots busy.

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Sokobanky t1_j97esya wrote

Being a garden variety gay isn’t enough for people to care about any more so this dude has decided to become gay 2.0. He still gets to indulge in all the privileges that come with outwardly being a rich white male, but also gets the oppression points of being able to correct people when they say that he is a man.

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Human_Fucker69420 t1_j90ql3n wrote

At this point, people who are annoyed by this kind of news want Sam Smith to change their pronunciation to was/were.

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dr_pickles69 t1_j8ym81n wrote

I believe the PC term would be "Fish person"

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AlabasterPelican t1_j90w5yf wrote

I was thinking fisherperson, just because it feels less clunky than fisherthem but what the heck ever - if they want to be a fisherthem, have at it haus do you lOl

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Eudevie t1_j92uisr wrote

It's better than replacing the -man part, because etymologically, the -man part just means human.

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AlabasterPelican t1_j93x4pk wrote

Honestly I decided to research this because I'm a bit bored and it seems that in professional writing it's a mixed bag on what the appropriate gender-neutral term is and if we need one at all. Some of this is because of the vast diversity of the English speaking world. From it's humble isle in Europe, to north America, to Asia, to Africa, to it's cozy corner of the southern hemisphere cultures of each are going to dictate how each cohort discusses gender-neutral terms. But the focus of the discussion seems to be primarily on the gender binary of man & woman and exclusionary of nonbinary/gender fluid/trans people. Here are a few pieces that I've found discussing the issue:

Lateral Magazine: Keeping it neutral

Hakai Magazine: “Fishers” or “Fishermen”—Which Is Right?

Ghoti Papers: Should we call them fishers or fishermen? (abstract)

The Sun: Female fisherman blasts BBC for using gender neutral term ‘fisherpeople’ (I only included this one for shits and gigs due to its sensationalized nature & I genuinely found it comical)

ABC (Australia Broadcast Company): Is 'fishermen' a sexist and exclusionary term?

The University of Auckland: Fishers or fishermen

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AlabasterPelican t1_j96fnbk wrote

The correct answer is to show some respect & call people what they wish to be called - it's super simple. There are however norms to look at particularly in professional writing and academia that usually try to set acceptable norms & standards by this principle. This whole conversation was more akin to a pointless thought experiment than anything.

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Hot_Blackberry_6895 t1_j8yneo8 wrote

So what does he call women? Womthem? What a publicity seeking wazzock.

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grimeflea t1_j8ypm1s wrote

They should collaborate with Tracy Chapthem

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CaptainPunch374 t1_j92a5ez wrote

Man is the default for human. (not 'male', no sex or gender implied, here)

Used to be wereman and woman. We dropped the 'were'.

Memba werewolves, though? Yep. Same exact, but reversed, problem as mermaids.

Basically, people worried about taking 'man' out of things are just supremely uninformed and don't really understand the context regarding how it ended up there.

That we got versions of words with the 'wo' added in to specify women is just like people continuing a volley in volleyball after the ball went out of bounds, it's technically fine, but we kept doing it and now we have to deal with this bullshit.

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GsTSaien t1_j8yrp6y wrote

What? No. What??

Sam is non binary, fisherthem is neutral and used to talk about themselves, because they are not a man. They are not trying to erase the word men...

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vamuzzi t1_j8zlebf wrote

More ridiculousness.

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NUAHS7- t1_j8ylpt5 wrote

He’s a strange one

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BigOleDawggo t1_j8zjpfr wrote

I used to commercial fish salmon in AK. We’d listen to the radio for season updates, fish counts and openings and closings etc. My first year (late 90s), ADFG referred to (what used to be “fishermen”) as “fishers” in the announcements. At the time it was to curb the implication that women didn’t fish, which they absofuckinglutey do. Seemed reasonable enough to me, why does it have to be so hard ? Fisherthem? Lol ok I guess, I like fisher for those of us that identify as the animals we all are.

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spoke2 t1_j905jmd wrote

When I grow up, I want to be one of the harvesters of the sea.

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roblitix t1_j92s0sh wrote

Cause he hasn't made a song on the charts in forever and he's becoming irrelevant to the public eye. Better beg for attention.

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Rhopunzel t1_j930uw8 wrote

Who the fuck is Sam Smith?

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Cayfish t1_j9392aq wrote

A singer who produced a few big hits that you’ve most definitely heard on the radio a few years ago. Haven’t heard of him for a few years, but looks like he’s changed his gender.

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OrdinaryImpress3422 t1_j9eo5m9 wrote

Watch South Park season 26, Episode 2. Victims everywhere.

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HollowRacoon t1_j92okqd wrote

I bet he likes fishsticks

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Eatthesewords t1_j90mcv1 wrote

We need to change menstruation to themstration. Dictionary to themtionary.

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jointheredditarmy t1_j909ap4 wrote

No one loves this more than republicans. Yes, be outraged at pronouns while we rob the country blind. Don’t focus on that, focus on how we can’t get pronouns right

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TricksterWolf t1_j92btmz wrote

Yes, it's fun to point the finger as though Democrats and Independents had anything whatsoever to do with the specific content of a random person's freedom of speech.

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Kind_Bullfrog_4073 t1_j91jdv4 wrote

I'm not a fan of single people using plurals as their pronouns. Just go by "it" if you don't want to be he or she.

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Nrdman t1_j93a3on wrote

They/them is already the default pronoun for when you don’t know someone’s gender.

Like “I love my doctor” “Oh good, what’s their name?”

You wouldn’t say “what’s it’s name?”

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SteveOMatt t1_j9c8jzm wrote

"Oh look, someone has dropped their wallet." If people are too dumb to know the difference between singular or plural, then God help them.

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Hadren-Blackwater t1_j92n1un wrote

I know I will get hate for this, but if you are not a "he" or a "she" you are an "it".

I refuse to address you like monarchy with "they" or be made to use the ridiculous "Xi" or "xer" or whatever it is.

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Nrdman t1_j93a2qq wrote

They/them is already the default pronoun for when you don’t know someone’s gender.

Like “I love my doctor” “Oh good, what’s their name?”

You wouldn’t say “what’s it’s name?”

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ThatCatfulCat t1_j90ee5s wrote

You're going to scare half of reddit by bring up pronouns.

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