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JollyTraveler t1_j5jk0ap wrote

I don’t think Cas is a serial killer- my read on Jeremy’s comment was that they both turned to “distractions” that treat women as disposable.

There’s a liiiiiittle bit of a difference between indiscriminately seducing and sleeping with women regardless of impact or regard for them as people, and literal murder. Like how he was party to ruining the marriage of that girl Fiona went to high school with- yeah she made the decision too but, uh, the Novak family sure seems to have a level of allure that most humans don’t.

Anyway, Casimir’s seduction activities are a far cry from Jeremy’s serial killer activities, though both seem to be rooted in issues with women.

Fiona, this might be a hard conversation, but I think you need to talk to Cas about your childhoods. I know you love your mom deeply, but I get the feeling that you may have been treated very differently as the next heiress and steward of the family land.

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Evening-Difficulty17 t1_j5joztw wrote

Agree. I also think the death of the youngest scarred Gem in a different way. He probably felt his mother thought the boys were disposable because Mom already had her heiress.

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Writerhowell t1_j5n66b6 wrote

Though I don't actually envy Fiona having to look after that place. Sure, it's nice to have a house without a mortgage, but it seems to be more trouble than its worth.

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Evening-Difficulty17 t1_j5n6n5z wrote

I don't think I'd have lived long as the caretaker. An entity even thinking about eating my children and I'd have burned the forest down or died trying.

Maybe it's best if Fiona doesn't have children.

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girl_from_the_crypt OP t1_j5k0ins wrote

Yeah, you're right. What also threw me off is how Jeremy seemed to think that Cas would just, you know, "get" him. I guess there is a conversation to be had. The thought of my mother being a problematic parent is admittedly hard to stomach, though. I always got a lot of attention and love from her, but I'm starting to think I might have been the only one of her kids who did. Christ, this is all so shitty.

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JollyTraveler t1_j5krsk7 wrote

And you just got your soul back too. Old Scratch there is tricky and opportunistic.

As far as your mom goes, it’s hard to just blame her for what’s happened. From what you’ve written it to does sound like she loved you all dearly. But in reality there are only so many hours in the day, and as your moms successor she needed to spend the time with you to teach you what that meant. Sadly that means less time for your siblings and as a kid that’s hard to reconcile. I can see Cas maybe wanting to avoid the topic, but if you asked him directly he might shed some light.

No matter what though, lots of us have shitty upbringings and somehow manage to not be serial killers. Jeremy made his choices and seems to have been deeply disturbed even before he moved out- at this point he has absolutely nothing to lose.

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Koevis t1_j5kzf84 wrote

Sounds like you were the golden child

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BellaAngelaDiTerra t1_j5nety7 wrote

Ah, wait a minute. This may be why he is in envy. Maybe because he is envious of all the love you were getting from your mom and why he is taking out his frustrations on other women? Hmmm...

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anaisgeorgoa t1_j5nld62 wrote

It seems like you may have been the golden child, and perhaps Jem could have been the scapegoat? I don’t know how your mother interacted with him, but it’s been said you were the favorite. It may fit the bill, but it kinda sorta doesn’t matter anymore. It was what it was. There’s no excuse for what/how Jem is. I’m sorry Fiona. This is all very hard.

When you’re going through hell, keep going!

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Tytticus t1_j5ke7gq wrote

>the Novak family sure seems to have a level of allure that most humans don’t.

That's a good point, and it makes me wonder if the Novaks have some fae ancestry. If some of their ancestors were on as friendly terms with the woodland inhabitants as Fiona is, that could well be the case.

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JollyTraveler t1_j5kslcg wrote

Between Casi-nova-mir and the sauna incident….well. 😏

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IAmNotDrDavis t1_j5kmvra wrote

I think it's pretty clear why Jem was in Envy. Looks like Nick is considering Cas for Lust.

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JaguarLong1936 t1_j5kog6g wrote

I kind of got the impression that he was infering Cas had similar feelings towards Fiona that he does...just not sure if its the resentment or the other really awful stuff.

I'm sure in his own way Cas might be a bit resentful but not for a moment do I think he would ever feel what Jeremy feels. He seems to genuinely love and want to protect her in a sibling way.

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JollyTraveler t1_j5ktg08 wrote

I agree that was the inference, but I think Jeremy is also just real fucked up and is incorrect about how Cas does feel. Still, hella problems with women though.

And yeah I think Cas has processed and recognized that whatever did happen was likely a failure in parenting and not with Fiona. Hell, it’s not like being the heiress is a walk in the park dream job. It’s hard work and can easily be deadly and requires essentially dedicating your life for the sake of the land.

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Thr33Littl3Monk3ys t1_j5la8yt wrote

I think he was mixing up resentment for...whatever the hell he feels toward Fiona. Which might have resentment thrown in...but it's also a helluva lot darker than that. And because they grew up in a similar upbringing, he's assuming that Cas must have the same feelings he does.

It's sorta like how racists think everyone around them will agree with their racist, for a (somehow!) less extreme example...

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