leywok t1_j5h2it2 wrote on January 22, 2023 at 11:21 PM

Reply to comment by Brave_Conflict465 in Minister: Germany won't block Poland giving Ukraine tanks by Brave_Conflict465

They already signed contracts to purchase and build Korean tanks; so they can dump the Leopards .

Brave_Conflict465 OP t1_j5h3ea0 wrote on January 22, 2023 at 11:27 PM

And M1A1 Abrams https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2023/01/04/poland-signs-deal-to-buy-2nd-batch-of-us-abrams-tanks/

leywok t1_j5h4ccf wrote on January 22, 2023 at 11:34 PM

To friends in need you just say “how much and how fast do you need it” not, “fill out a request in triplicate, I’ll check stock and let you know after the war. “ The Germans are anal about records and record keeping.

Mothrahlurker t1_j5hyiga wrote on January 23, 2023 at 3:04 AM

>“how much and how fast do you need it” not, “fill out a request in triplicate, I’ll check stock and let you know after the war. “

Because that is a very fair representation of not even submitting any export request at all, not even contacting the relevant authority.

BoringBob84 t1_j5hloqd wrote on January 23, 2023 at 1:34 AM

I think that the Germans are very justified in being careful about getting involved in war.

leywok t1_j5hnsbd wrote on January 23, 2023 at 1:49 AM

Some countries, Germany foremost, France and even the US are playing the game so that Ukraine doesn’t win nor Russia, basically another Donbas wall. In all the statements “ we’re with Ukraine till the end” NOTHING is mentioned. ‘We’re with Ukraine till they win”. That’s a big difference, mostly Ukrainian deaths. The US’ (I’m a US citizen) main goal is to ruin Russia’s capacity to wage war for 20-40 years to come. If I was Ukraine I would not waste precious lives on moonscape territory but focus on Crimea. Poland will have almost 800 new tanks plus the surplus currently. You couple the M1s and the Korean tanks with A-10s (again US surplus) and Ukraine will be safe without Germany’s umbrella (or full NATO protection). Germany can go back on building BMWs and not pay their 2% share (not expected to happen till at least 2024).

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Limp_Agency161 t1_j5jd6c8 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 12:38 PM

Lord another dumbfuck American thinking they know how the world works while unironically giving war advice to the Ukrainians.

leywok t1_j5jgcxf wrote on January 23, 2023 at 1:09 PM

These “dumb fucks” are paying for everything we’re gleefully sending to Ukraine. I’m giving advice to other dumb fucks on Reddit not Ukraine.