DM_DM_DND t1_j4487nv wrote on January 13, 2023 at 1:28 AM

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Electric vehicles are still a meaningful improvement as long as your grid is green. If the grid isn't green, it's largely meaningless.

ZeenTex t1_j44olcb wrote on January 13, 2023 at 3:28 AM

Iirc, consensus is that electric cars, even with electricity from coal, is still 60 to 80 percent less polluting than a petrol fueled car.

DM_DM_DND t1_j44terr wrote on January 13, 2023 at 4:06 AM

That is generally true (but depends on costs associated with moving the electricity) although coal is so absolutely terrible that it's still pretty bad. I suppose it's probably serviceable if you have transitioning sources like natural gas.

Still, a bus is better if you have anything like carrying capacity number of people.

ZeenTex t1_j44va9p wrote on January 13, 2023 at 4:22 AM

Well, transporting fuel has its costs too.

Also, agree with the public transport thing, but people would revolt if you denied them the use of their dear cars.

(I don't have a car by they way, nor a drivers license even, but have the luxury to live in a place with excellent, cheap public transport, taxi's and no daily commute due to my job)