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011010001101001 t1_j412m3j wrote

Same at Oracle. For years they've hired hundreds of low-paid, low-skilled IT workers from India who are woefully under-qualified, and lean HARD on a literal handful of US-based senior engineers, architects, and developers to do the important work, go to meetings, give presentations, etc.

As you can imagine, there's a year+ backlog of work, it keeps building up, and more than half the week is spent fixing stuff they broke, or being tier 2/3 support for them because they can't read logs and have no idea what to do except press the Enter key to run the automation we created for them.

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vir_papyrus t1_j41bgqf wrote

It’s what I see everyday at companies who went to offshored MSPs or whatever. They keep a few senior domestic workers who have that tribal knowledge and more or less know what they’re doing. Rest are just distant worker bees who have no real incentive to care. But the entire setup means that everything is so rigid in process and lacks higher level talent, that everyone gets stuck just treading water. “This is how <x> works, and so we just keep doing it” it’s all about keeping the lights on.

Ultimately it becomes nearly impossible for them to actually do anything new. There’s just no room for big change because the whole setup is so inflexible. Simply no one who has the time, talent, political power, and patience to say take <x> technology and run with a new implementation. No one who can be creative and see how the big picture puzzle pieces fit together for their own organization.

And eventually over time because change has become such a monumental task, they basically atrophy. Hopelessly out of date. They look at solutions and products that are too new to support a company still operating like it’s 2003 instead of 2023.

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fiordchan t1_j44t3ld wrote

Deloite USA is now over 70% Indians. Partners? all white

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ScreamingMemales t1_j41yazv wrote

>As you can imagine, there's a year+ backlog of work, it keeps building up, and more than half the week is spent fixing stuff they broke, or being tier 2/3 support for them because they can't read logs and have no idea what to do except press the Enter key to run the automation we created for them.

That's wild. I worked at IBM the last few years and our offshore team was always harder working and better performing than the onshore team. Those guys work crazy long shifts for way less money.

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zOSguru t1_j48mbzn wrote

And produce shit quality software

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ScreamingMemales t1_j48mqb4 wrote

The real shit was the onshore team's work, which had to be fixed overnight by the offshore guys most weeks. Not saying every team is like that but offshore guys can be smart too. But its hard for them to leave their whole family network behind to come here for a better job.

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